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From: ctops.legal on 6 Jan 2010 11:26 On Jan 6, 11:20 am, "Steve W." <csr...(a)NOTyahoo.com> wrote: > ctops.legal wrote: > > On Jan 6, 9:55 am, "Steve W." <csr...(a)NOTyahoo.com> wrote: > >> ctops.legal wrote: > >>> Still no reply from FelPro on my inquiries, Steve my engine is a 6 > >>> cylinder engine 3.1L, my bud just droped off the HST 9957 PT-1 head > >>> set he said the guy at the engine shop said this set also has an > >>> beefed-up head gasket as well. > >>> Curt > >> Not a surprise. Federal Mogul was never real big on talking to small > >> customers. Now if you wanted to order 500,000 sets!!! > > >> That is the part number for the good gasket set. > >> The T means the set is the updated Perma-Torque parts. > > >> GM uses a set made the same way as the service part. Except it includes > >> the bolts as well. > > >> So will you be firing it up tonight??? > > >> -- > >> Steve W. > > > To cold got down to 21 degrees last night, start tomorrow, question to > > re-torque the heads after initial start-up will have to leave the > > exhaust manifold heat shields off the back head, how inportant is > > these heat shields ? > > > Curt > > I would assume that you have heat on while your working on it? > The catch with doing the work in the cold is that when the engine heats > up the parts expand. That causes things to move more. What I would > probably do would be to stick the heads/intake inside and let them warm > up good. Take a couple of heat lamps and let them heat up the block for > a while. Then throw it together quick. Should take care of the problem. > > Well, they only keep the engine heat from igniting the engine bay... > Seriously. > > -- > Steve W.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I can mod the sheilds to get to the head bolts, 4 holes wont be a problem as far as heat to the extent of causing a fire, still need the full torque spec's. Curt
From: Steve W. on 6 Jan 2010 11:43 > > I can mod the sheilds to get to the head bolts, 4 holes wont be a > problem as far as heat to the extent of causing a fire, still need the > full torque spec's. > > > Curt My first post had the current specs in it. Head bolts. Torque Sequence per SB 02-06-01-003B Issued April 2008 5 O 3 O 2 O 8 O 7 O 1 O 4 O 6 O Start at 44 lb. ft. Then 95 degrees additional. Follow the numbers from 1-8 Intake replacement: Service Bulletin 03-06-01-010C Issued April 2008 dO bO aO cO cO aO bO dO a/b get initial torque of 62 lb. in. then c/d get initial torque of 62 lb. in. NEXT a/b get final torque of 115 lb. in. then c/d get final torque of 18 lb. ft. May develop an oil leak if you don't torque the verticals first. Recommended that intake bolts be replaced as well. -- Steve W.
From: aarcuda69062 on 6 Jan 2010 13:13 In article <a577163e-b334-45c9-981d-9393dcfe96b3(a)m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, "ctops.legal" <ctops.legal(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > To cold got down to 21 degrees last night, start tomorrow, question to > re-torque the heads after initial start-up NO_NO_NO!!! These are torque to yield bolts, they do not need re-torquing nor will re-torquing them accomplish anything. To re-torque, you'd need to back each bolt off and then re-torque it. As soon as you back the head bolt off it is time to discard it. This could go on forever taken literally. Furthermore, the Fel-Pro head gaskets in that set are "PermaTorque" they do not require re-torquing regardless of the type of head bolt used.
From: jim on 6 Jan 2010 15:26 "ctops.legal" wrote: > > -- > > Steve W.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > I can mod the sheilds to get to the head bolts, 4 holes wont be a > problem as far as heat to the extent of causing a fire, still need the > full torque spec's. > > Is this what you are looking for ? http://www.felpro-only.com/tec_notes/2009TorqueSpecsGuide.pdf
From: ctops.legal on 6 Jan 2010 15:48
On Jan 6, 3:26 pm, jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt,net> wrote: > "ctops.legal" wrote: > > > -- > > > Steve W.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > I can mod the sheilds to get to the head bolts, 4 holes wont be a > > problem as far as heat to the extent of causing a fire, still need the > > full torque spec's. > > Is this what you are looking for ? > > http://www.felpro-only.com/tec_notes/2009TorqueSpecsGuide.pdf Thank you I will put it all back together tomorrow, FelPro did send the same pdf file. Steve said that this is the right sequence: Head bolts. Torque Sequence per SB 02-06-01-003B Issued April 2008 5 O 3 O 2 O 8 O 7 O 1 O 4 O 6 O Am I not looking at a v8 not a v6 3.1L ? |