From: ctops.legal on
On Jan 6, 11:20 am, "Steve W." <csr...(a)NOTyahoo.com> wrote:
> ctops.legal wrote:
> > On Jan 6, 9:55 am, "Steve W." <csr...(a)NOTyahoo.com> wrote:
> >> ctops.legal wrote:
> >>> Still no reply from FelPro on my inquiries, Steve my engine is a 6
> >>> cylinder engine 3.1L, my bud just droped off the HST 9957 PT-1 head
> >>> set he said the guy at the engine shop said this set also has an
> >>> beefed-up head gasket as well.
> >>> Curt
> >> Not a surprise. Federal Mogul was never real big on talking to small
> >> customers. Now if you wanted to order 500,000 sets!!!
>
> >> That is the part number for the good gasket set.
> >> The T means the set is the updated Perma-Torque parts.
>
> >> GM uses a set made the same way as the service part. Except it includes
> >> the bolts as well.
>
> >> So will you be firing it up tonight???
>
> >> --
> >> Steve W.
>
> > To cold got down to 21 degrees last night, start tomorrow, question to
> > re-torque the heads after initial start-up will have to leave the
> > exhaust manifold heat shields off the back head, how inportant is
> > these heat shields ?
>
> > Curt
>
> I would assume that you have heat on while your working on it?
> The catch with doing the work in the cold is that when the engine heats
> up the parts expand. That causes things to move more. What I would
> probably do would be to stick the heads/intake inside and let them warm
> up good. Take a couple of heat lamps and let them heat up the block for
> a while. Then throw it together quick. Should take care of the problem.
>
> Well, they only keep the engine heat from igniting the engine bay...
> Seriously.
>
> --
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I can mod the sheilds to get to the head bolts, 4 holes wont be a
problem as far as heat to the extent of causing a fire, still need the
full torque spec's.


Curt
From: Steve W. on

>
> I can mod the sheilds to get to the head bolts, 4 holes wont be a
> problem as far as heat to the extent of causing a fire, still need the
> full torque spec's.
>
>
> Curt

My first post had the current specs in it.

Head bolts.
Torque Sequence per SB 02-06-01-003B
Issued April 2008

5 O 3 O 2 O 8 O

7 O 1 O 4 O 6 O

Start at 44 lb. ft.
Then 95 degrees additional.
Follow the numbers from 1-8


Intake replacement:

Service Bulletin 03-06-01-010C
Issued April 2008

dO bO aO cO

cO aO bO dO

a/b get initial torque of 62 lb. in. then
c/d get initial torque of 62 lb. in.
NEXT
a/b get final torque of 115 lb. in. then
c/d get final torque of 18 lb. ft.

May develop an oil leak if you don't torque the verticals first.
Recommended that intake bolts be replaced as well.

--
Steve W.
From: aarcuda69062 on
In article
<a577163e-b334-45c9-981d-9393dcfe96b3(a)m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
"ctops.legal" <ctops.legal(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>
> To cold got down to 21 degrees last night, start tomorrow, question to
> re-torque the heads after initial start-up

NO_NO_NO!!!

These are torque to yield bolts, they do not need re-torquing nor will
re-torquing them accomplish anything.
To re-torque, you'd need to back each bolt off and then re-torque it.
As soon as you back the head bolt off it is time to discard it. This
could go on forever taken literally.
Furthermore, the Fel-Pro head gaskets in that set are "PermaTorque" they
do not require re-torquing regardless of the type of head bolt used.
From: jim on


"ctops.legal" wrote:

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> > Steve W.- Hide quoted text -
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> I can mod the sheilds to get to the head bolts, 4 holes wont be a
> problem as far as heat to the extent of causing a fire, still need the
> full torque spec's.
>
>

Is this what you are looking for ?

http://www.felpro-only.com/tec_notes/2009TorqueSpecsGuide.pdf
From: ctops.legal on
On Jan 6, 3:26 pm, jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt,net> wrote:
> "ctops.legal" wrote:
> > > --
> > > Steve W.- Hide quoted text -
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> > I can mod the sheilds to get to the head bolts, 4 holes wont be a
> > problem as far as heat to the extent of causing a fire, still need the
> > full torque spec's.
>
>         Is this what you are looking for ?
>
> http://www.felpro-only.com/tec_notes/2009TorqueSpecsGuide.pdf

Thank you I will put it all back together tomorrow, FelPro did send
the same pdf file.

Steve said that this is the right sequence:

Head bolts.
Torque Sequence per SB 02-06-01-003B
Issued April 2008


5 O 3 O 2 O 8 O


7 O 1 O 4 O 6 O


Am I not looking at a v8 not a v6 3.1L ?