From: ctops.legal on
On Jan 8, 3:29 pm, "ctops.legal" <ctops.le...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 8, 4:01 am, "ctops.legal" <ctops.le...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
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> > On Jan 5, 4:09 pm, "Steve W." <csr...(a)NOTyahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > ctops.legal wrote:
> > > > I just talked to my bud who owns a good size auto repair shop here
> > > > Autozone/Advance AP can't get the HST 9957 PT-1, my friend aked for
> > > > the 8th digit of the VIN # to get the right set from NAPA (there site
> > > > list's it 100 dollars more than the HS 9957 PT-1, what is this 8th
> > > > digit thing and why are the parts houses using this procedure ?
>
> > > > Curt
>
> > > Rock auto has both,
> > > The HS  set at 143.89
> > > The HST set at 169.79
>
> > > NAPA shows
> > > The HS  set at 234.00
> > > The HST set at 209.00
>
> > > Head Bolt set is FPG ES72892 runs about 40 bucks.
>
> > > Torque Sequence per SB 02-06-01-003B
> > > Issued April 2008
>
> > >  5 O    3 O    2 O    8 O
>
> > >  7 O    1 O    4 O    6 O
>
> > > Start at 44 lb. ft.
> > > Then 95 degrees additional.
>
> > > Intake replacement:
>
> > > Service Bulletin 03-06-01-010C
> > > Issued April 2008
>
> > >    dO     bO     aO     cO
>
> > >    cO     aO     bO     dO
>
> > > a/b get initial torque of 62 lb. in. then
> > > c/d get initial torque of 62 lb. in.
> > > NEXT
> > > a/b get final torque of 115 lb. in. then
> > > c/d get final torque of 18 lb. ft.
>
> > > May develop an oil leak if you don't torque the verticals first.
> > > Recommended that intake bolts be replaced as well.
> > > --
> > > Steve W.
>
> > Steve W.
> >  You posted;
> > Service Bulletin 03-06-01-010C
> > Issued April 2008
>
> >    dO     bO     aO     cO
>
> >    cO     aO     bO     dO
>
> > a/b get initial torque of 62 lb. in. then
> > c/d get initial torque of 62 lb. in.
> > NEXT
> > a/b get final torque of 115 lb. in. then
> > c/d get final torque of 18 lb. ft.
>
> > May develop an oil leak if you don't torque the verticals first.
> > Recommended that intake bolts be replaced as well.
> > --
> > The verticals first as in a & b ?, and incidentally the "c" intake
> > bolts are recessed into the intake body a 10mm swivel socket 3/8 drive
> > will access, I was thinking of that so I want need to rent a 1/4 inch
> > pound torque wrench only a 3/8 drive ?
>
> >                                                                Curt- Hide quoted text -
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> Just found this;http://www.torkspec.com/torkspecme.aspx?KI=12-3.1L-191ci-V6- Hide quoted text -
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The FelPro bolt for the 4 vert. on the lower intake manifold are
shorter than the GM bolt a good 3/16 of a inch, it forced me to use a
helicoil insert on 2 (the side of the thermostat) to much heat there
used lock-tight, fire her up today :-)

Curt
From: Nate Nagel on
ctops.legal wrote:
> On Jan 8, 3:29 pm, "ctops.legal" <ctops.le...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 8, 4:01 am, "ctops.legal" <ctops.le...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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>>
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>>> On Jan 5, 4:09 pm, "Steve W." <csr...(a)NOTyahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> ctops.legal wrote:
>>>>> I just talked to my bud who owns a good size auto repair shop here
>>>>> Autozone/Advance AP can't get the HST 9957 PT-1, my friend aked for
>>>>> the 8th digit of the VIN # to get the right set from NAPA (there site
>>>>> list's it 100 dollars more than the HS 9957 PT-1, what is this 8th
>>>>> digit thing and why are the parts houses using this procedure ?
>>>>> Curt
>>>> Rock auto has both,
>>>> The HS set at 143.89
>>>> The HST set at 169.79
>>>> NAPA shows
>>>> The HS set at 234.00
>>>> The HST set at 209.00
>>>> Head Bolt set is FPG ES72892 runs about 40 bucks.
>>>> Torque Sequence per SB 02-06-01-003B
>>>> Issued April 2008
>>>> 5 O 3 O 2 O 8 O
>>>> 7 O 1 O 4 O 6 O
>>>> Start at 44 lb. ft.
>>>> Then 95 degrees additional.
>>>> Intake replacement:
>>>> Service Bulletin 03-06-01-010C
>>>> Issued April 2008
>>>> dO bO aO cO
>>>> cO aO bO dO
>>>> a/b get initial torque of 62 lb. in. then
>>>> c/d get initial torque of 62 lb. in.
>>>> NEXT
>>>> a/b get final torque of 115 lb. in. then
>>>> c/d get final torque of 18 lb. ft.
>>>> May develop an oil leak if you don't torque the verticals first.
>>>> Recommended that intake bolts be replaced as well.
>>>> --
>>>> Steve W.
>>> Steve W.
>>> You posted;
>>> Service Bulletin 03-06-01-010C
>>> Issued April 2008
>>> dO bO aO cO
>>> cO aO bO dO
>>> a/b get initial torque of 62 lb. in. then
>>> c/d get initial torque of 62 lb. in.
>>> NEXT
>>> a/b get final torque of 115 lb. in. then
>>> c/d get final torque of 18 lb. ft.
>>> May develop an oil leak if you don't torque the verticals first.
>>> Recommended that intake bolts be replaced as well.
>>> --
>>> The verticals first as in a & b ?, and incidentally the "c" intake
>>> bolts are recessed into the intake body a 10mm swivel socket 3/8 drive
>>> will access, I was thinking of that so I want need to rent a 1/4 inch
>>> pound torque wrench only a 3/8 drive ?
>>> Curt- Hide quoted text -
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>> Just found this;http://www.torkspec.com/torkspecme.aspx?KI=12-3.1L-191ci-V6- Hide quoted text -
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> The FelPro bolt for the 4 vert. on the lower intake manifold are
> shorter than the GM bolt a good 3/16 of a inch, it forced me to use a
> helicoil insert on 2 (the side of the thermostat) to much heat there
> used lock-tight, fire her up today :-)
>
> Curt

Awaiting reports of triumphant success.

nate

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From: ctops.legal on
On Jan 14, 10:52 am, "ctops.legal" <ctops.le...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 8, 3:29 pm, "ctops.legal" <ctops.le...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 8, 4:01 am, "ctops.legal" <ctops.le...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 5, 4:09 pm, "Steve W." <csr...(a)NOTyahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > ctops.legal wrote:
> > > > > I just talked to my bud who owns a good size auto repair shop here
> > > > > Autozone/Advance AP can't get the HST 9957 PT-1, my friend aked for
> > > > > the 8th digit of the VIN # to get the right set from NAPA (there site
> > > > > list's it 100 dollars more than the HS 9957 PT-1, what is this 8th
> > > > > digit thing and why are the parts houses using this procedure ?
>
> > > > > Curt
>
> > > > Rock auto has both,
> > > > The HS  set at 143.89
> > > > The HST set at 169.79
>
> > > > NAPA shows
> > > > The HS  set at 234.00
> > > > The HST set at 209.00
>
> > > > Head Bolt set is FPG ES72892 runs about 40 bucks.
>
> > > > Torque Sequence per SB 02-06-01-003B
> > > > Issued April 2008
>
> > > >  5 O    3 O    2 O    8 O
>
> > > >  7 O    1 O    4 O    6 O
>
> > > > Start at 44 lb. ft.
> > > > Then 95 degrees additional.
>
> > > > Intake replacement:
>
> > > > Service Bulletin 03-06-01-010C
> > > > Issued April 2008
>
> > > >    dO     bO     aO     cO
>
> > > >    cO     aO     bO     dO
>
> > > > a/b get initial torque of 62 lb. in. then
> > > > c/d get initial torque of 62 lb. in.
> > > > NEXT
> > > > a/b get final torque of 115 lb. in. then
> > > > c/d get final torque of 18 lb. ft.
>
> > > > May develop an oil leak if you don't torque the verticals first.
> > > > Recommended that intake bolts be replaced as well.
> > > > --
> > > > Steve W.
>
> > > Steve W.
> > >  You posted;
> > > Service Bulletin 03-06-01-010C
> > > Issued April 2008
>
> > >    dO     bO     aO     cO
>
> > >    cO     aO     bO     dO
>
> > > a/b get initial torque of 62 lb. in. then
> > > c/d get initial torque of 62 lb. in.
> > > NEXT
> > > a/b get final torque of 115 lb. in. then
> > > c/d get final torque of 18 lb. ft.
>
> > > May develop an oil leak if you don't torque the verticals first.
> > > Recommended that intake bolts be replaced as well.
> > > --
> > > The verticals first as in a & b ?, and incidentally the "c" intake
> > > bolts are recessed into the intake body a 10mm swivel socket 3/8 drive
> > > will access, I was thinking of that so I want need to rent a 1/4 inch
> > > pound torque wrench only a 3/8 drive ?
>
> > >                                                                Curt- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
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> > Just found this;http://www.torkspec.com/torkspecme.aspx?KI=12-3.1L-191ci-V6-Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> The FelPro bolt for the 4 vert. on the lower intake manifold are
> shorter than the GM bolt a good 3/16 of a inch, it forced me to use a
> helicoil insert on 2 (the side of the thermostat) to much heat there
> used lock-tight, fire her up today :-)
>
>                                                     Curt- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Mission accomplished, words of advice to a novice mechanics doing this
repair, be sure and place the back lower heat shield for the exhaust
manifold in place before you set the rear head-with the manifold
attached, once you torque the head with the attached exhaust manifold
you can not get the back lower heat shield in place, and don't worry
about marking each electrical plugs (except the injectors), they can
only go one place.

Tools are the key if you got them the job is not a problem, it is a 3
to 5 day job if you want to do it right..


Curt
From: Steve W. on
ctops.legal wrote:

>
> Mission accomplished, words of advice to a novice mechanics doing this
> repair, be sure and place the back lower heat shield for the exhaust
> manifold in place before you set the rear head-with the manifold
> attached, once you torque the head with the attached exhaust manifold
> you can not get the back lower heat shield in place, and don't worry
> about marking each electrical plugs (except the injectors), they can
> only go one place.
>
> Tools are the key if you got them the job is not a problem, it is a 3
> to 5 day job if you want to do it right..
>
>
> Curt

3-5 DAYS!!!!

If I remember correctly book time is about 16 hours to do both head
gaskets. It's been a while though.

--
Steve W.
From: ctops.legal on
On Jan 23, 8:42 pm, "Steve W." <csr...(a)NOTyahoo.com> wrote:
> ctops.legal wrote:
>
> > Mission accomplished, words of advice to a novice mechanics doing this
> > repair, be sure and place the back lower heat shield for the exhaust
> > manifold in place before you set the rear head-with the manifold
> > attached, once you torque the head with the attached exhaust manifold
> > you can not get the back lower heat shield in place, and don't worry
> > about marking each electrical plugs (except the injectors), they can
> > only go one place.
>
> > Tools are the key if you got them the job is not a problem, it is a 3
> > to 5 day job if you want to do it right..
>
> > Curt
>
> 3-5 DAYS!!!!
>
> If I remember correctly book time is about 16 hours to do both head
> gaskets. It's been a while though.
>
> --
> Steve W.

Steve your talking about a professional garage setting / with all the
tools /, I guess myself now could could do it in 2 short days, you got
to let the Permatex High-Temp Red RTV Silicone (NOT THE BLACK which
was included with the FelPro head set), over-night drying in temp's
below 75 degree highs is a no brainer, those ends must seal perfect if
you want the job to last, anyways no fluid leaks or consumption
problems.