From: Mr. Benn on 6 Jul 2010 10:18
"Raymond Dalgleish" <rwmd1(a)le.ac.uk> wrote in message
> On 06/07/2010 12:04, Mr. Benn wrote:
>> I have noticed a number of these signs and lights appearing near schools
>> recently. What an excellent system. We need more forward-thinking like
> I agree that it's good. However, it's a pity that nobody seems to have
> thought about sign-posting the point where you then leave the temporary 20
> mph zone. Does that only occur when you eventually happen upon, say, the
> start of a 40 mph zone? You can imagine some plod with too much time on
> his hands getting very pedantic over such matters.
It will be 20mph until you see any other sign to indicate a different speed.
From: Adrian on 6 Jul 2010 10:22
Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:
>>> the roads are there for all
>> No, for all those who meet a minimum skill requirement.
> yes, "minimum". There is no case for depriving the less skills of the
> freedom of a car to allow others with more skill to drive fast.
I'm merely suggesting raising that minimum skill requirement - and
ensuring that it is a baseline, not merely a once-in-a-lifetime highpoint.
From: FrengaX on 6 Jul 2010 11:26
On Jul 6, 12:04 pm, "Mr. Benn" <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> I have noticed a number of these signs and lights appearing near schools
> recently. What an excellent system. We need more forward-thinking like
Agreed. very common in the US outside schools . And a lot more
sensible than a blanket 20 limit outside a school which is in
operation 24 hours a day, term time or not - completely daft having to
do 20 at 3am on Sunday in August.
 One other thing they do in the US is to say "20 when children are
present", which is a bit ambiguous. I never determined whether that
meant just when they are coming and going, at start and end of school
time, or all the time from 7:30/8am to 4pm or so.
> I'm also in favour of the French system where speed limits are reduced on
> some roads when it's raining.
From: Bagpuss on 6 Jul 2010 11:34
On 6 July, 14:50, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk>
> On 6 Jul 2010 13:09:44 GMT, Adrian wrote:
> > The rest is simple enough to prevent, too, by stopping the incompetent
> > from driving.
> the roads are there for all, its not meant to be the preserve of people who
> watch Top Gear.
They're not there for all. They are there for those who are competent
to use them , not dangeous morons.
From: mileburner on 6 Jul 2010 12:25
"Mr. Benn" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>I have noticed a number of these signs and lights appearing near schools
>recently. What an excellent system. We need more forward-thinking like
The Spanish often take this one stage further and close the road outside the
school to all traffic at the start and end of the school day.
This is an excellent way to ensure that the traffic does not present a
danger to the children arriving at, and leaving school.