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From: mileburner on 6 Jul 2010 12:30

"Mr. Benn" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Raymond Dalgleish" <rwmd1(a)le.ac.uk> wrote in message
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>> On 06/07/2010 12:04, Mr. Benn wrote:
>>> I have noticed a number of these signs and lights appearing near schools
>>> recently. What an excellent system. We need more forward-thinking like
>>> this.
>>
>> I agree that it's good. However, it's a pity that nobody seems to have
>> thought about sign-posting the point where you then leave the temporary
>> 20 mph zone. Does that only occur when you eventually happen upon, say,
>> the start of a 40 mph zone? You can imagine some plod with too much time
>> on his hands getting very pedantic over such matters.
>
> It will be 20mph until you see any other sign to indicate a different
> speed.

Maybe I am wrong but I have been led to believe that 20mph zones were
voluntary and were still legally a 30mph limit.

Even if it is just a case of slapping up some signs and lights, they still
work :-)


From: Adrian on 6 Jul 2010 12:10
"mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

> The Spanish often take this one stage further and close the road outside
> the school to all traffic at the start and end of the school day.
>
> This is an excellent way to ensure that the traffic does not present a
> danger to the children arriving at, and leaving school.

Since the traffic that usually poses the greatest danger is that which IS
taking the children to school...
From: Adrian on 6 Jul 2010 12:11
"mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

>> It will be 20mph until you see any other sign to indicate a different
>> speed.

> Maybe I am wrong but I have been led to believe that 20mph zones were
> voluntary and were still legally a 30mph limit.

AIUI, they are enforceable, but have to have traffic calming measures
installed to reduce the "natural" speed.
From: Mortimer on 6 Jul 2010 12:34
"Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
> like they were saying:
>
>>> It will be 20mph until you see any other sign to indicate a different
>>> speed.
>
>> Maybe I am wrong but I have been led to believe that 20mph zones were
>> voluntary and were still legally a 30mph limit.
>
> AIUI, they are enforceable, but have to have traffic calming measures
> installed to reduce the "natural" speed.

I'm sure I've read that it *used* to be the case that the lowest speed limit
that could be enforced was 30, and that this is why physical traffic calming
(chicanes, humps) were installed to keep people below the 30 limit. But AIUI
that limitation of the law has now been removed and 20 signs *on a public
highway, as opposed to on private land where no limit is enforceable* are
mandatory.

From: Nick Finnigan on 6 Jul 2010 13:20
Raymond Dalgleish wrote:
> On 06/07/2010 12:04, Mr. Benn wrote:
>> I have noticed a number of these signs and lights appearing near schools
>> recently. What an excellent system. We need more forward-thinking like
>> this.
>
> I agree that it's good. However, it's a pity that nobody seems to have
> thought about sign-posting the point where you then leave the temporary
> 20 mph zone. Does that only occur when you eventually happen upon, say,
> the start of a 40 mph zone? You can imagine some plod with too much time
> on his hands getting very pedantic over such matters.

'When lights are flashing' is not enforceable.

A temporary speed limit with proper red circles would be enforceable, and
would have to have corresponding terminal signs (normally covered up).
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