From: John Larkin on
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:36:41 -0800 (PST), Bret Cahill
<BretCahill(a)aol.com> wrote:

>> >> >>>>The price of fuel hadn't gone over $5/gallon back then.
>>
>> >> >>> Current US average at the pump is about $2.60.
>>
>> >> >>The price of fuel should include the true costs of getting the raw
>> >> >>material
>> >> >>(crude oil)
>>
>> >> > If I'm not paying for the cost of the crude oil when I buy gas, who
>> >> > is?
>>
>> >> All people who pay taxes of any kind, and our future generations who will
>> >> be paying the debt we are accumulating.
>>
>> Nobody will pay the debt. We'll just print money.
>
>That's why fuel will be $5/gallon again next year and $10/gallon in 2
>years.
>
>> >Not that it's an immediate concern but the real cost is the climate.
>>
>> >The NY Times recently ran an article claiming that now most economists
>> >agree that it will be more expensive for society to ignore AGW than to
>> >do something about it.
>
>> The "most economists agree" bit is hilarious.
>
>They were including the shills at Hoover and the Chicago School.
>
>> And even if they did
>> agree, they'd usually be wrong.
>
>I'ld like to see the sample myself.
>
>> You guys need something productive to do. All this worrying about the
>> future is making you neurotic.
>
>Lots of opportunities in technical fields especially materials science
>and heat transfer.
>
>And in hauling coal.
>
>
>Bret Cahill
>

Given that you like to post to an electronics group, you might
consider learning a little about electronics. Unlike neurotic fretting
about climate and energy issues that you can't control, electronics is
accessible and fun.

John

From: krw on
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:58:29 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:36:41 -0800 (PST), Bret Cahill
><BretCahill(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>>> >> >>>>The price of fuel hadn't gone over $5/gallon back then.
>>>
>>> >> >>> Current US average at the pump is about $2.60.
>>>
>>> >> >>The price of fuel should include the true costs of getting the raw
>>> >> >>material
>>> >> >>(crude oil)
>>>
>>> >> > If I'm not paying for the cost of the crude oil when I buy gas, who
>>> >> > is?
>>>
>>> >> All people who pay taxes of any kind, and our future generations who will
>>> >> be paying the debt we are accumulating.
>>>
>>> Nobody will pay the debt. We'll just print money.
>>
>>That's why fuel will be $5/gallon again next year and $10/gallon in 2
>>years.
>>
>>> >Not that it's an immediate concern but the real cost is the climate.
>>>
>>> >The NY Times recently ran an article claiming that now most economists
>>> >agree that it will be more expensive for society to ignore AGW than to
>>> >do something about it.
>>
>>> The "most economists agree" bit is hilarious.
>>
>>They were including the shills at Hoover and the Chicago School.
>>
>>> And even if they did
>>> agree, they'd usually be wrong.
>>
>>I'ld like to see the sample myself.
>>
>>> You guys need something productive to do. All this worrying about the
>>> future is making you neurotic.
>>
>>Lots of opportunities in technical fields especially materials science
>>and heat transfer.
>>
>>And in hauling coal.
>>
>>
>>Bret Cahill
>>
>
>Given that you like to post to an electronics group, you might
>consider learning a little about electronics. Unlike neurotic fretting
>about climate and energy issues that you can't control, electronics is
>accessible and fun.

But like Slowman he can't do, only whine.
From: Paul E. Schoen on

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:shv3g59tsdd4r36braf5m2jmi25evb4iie(a)4ax.com...
>
> What a downer! Design some electronics. You'll feel better.

Yes, we should bury our heads in silicon crystals like Ostriches. And
reality will take a big bite out of our butts.

Maybe 2012 will be the end. 12/12/12 to be precise. Divide that by two and
you get 6/6/6.

Paul


From: John Larkin on
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:47:46 -0500, "Paul E. Schoen"
<paul(a)peschoen.com> wrote:

>
>"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
>news:shv3g59tsdd4r36braf5m2jmi25evb4iie(a)4ax.com...
>>
>> What a downer! Design some electronics. You'll feel better.
>
>Yes, we should bury our heads in silicon crystals like Ostriches. And
>reality will take a big bite out of our butts.
>
>Maybe 2012 will be the end. 12/12/12 to be precise. Divide that by two and
>you get 6/6/6.
>
>Paul
>

So eat, drink, and be merry.

John

From: Bret Cahill on
> >> >> >>>>The price of fuel hadn't gone over $5/gallon back then.
>
> >> >> >>> Current US average at the pump is about $2.60.
>
> >> >> >>The price of fuel should include the true costs of getting the raw
> >> >> >>material
> >> >> >>(crude oil)
>
> >> >> > If I'm not paying for the cost of the crude oil when I buy gas, who
> >> >> > is?
>
> >> >> All people who pay taxes of any kind, and our future generations who will
> >> >> be paying the debt we are accumulating.
>
> >> Nobody will pay the debt. We'll just print money.
>
> >That's why fuel will be $5/gallon again next year and $10/gallon in 2
> >years.
>
> >> >Not that it's an immediate concern but the real cost is the climate.
>
> >> >The NY Times recently ran an article claiming that now most economists
> >> >agree that it will be more expensive for society to ignore AGW than to
> >> >do something about it.
>
> >> The "most economists agree" bit is hilarious.
>
> >They were including the shills at Hoover and the Chicago School.
>
> >> And even if they did
> >> agree, they'd usually be wrong.
>
> >I'ld like to see the sample myself.
>
> >> You guys need something productive to do. All this worrying about the
> >> future is making you neurotic.
>
> >Lots of opportunities in technical fields especially materials science
> >and heat transfer.
>
> >And in hauling coal.
>
> >Bret Cahill
>
> Given that you like to post to an electronics group, you might
> consider learning a little about electronics. Unlike neurotic fretting
> about climate and energy issues that you can't control, electronics is
> accessible and fun.

We need a motor - generator that is efficient over a broad rpm range
and doesn't require rare earth elements.


Bret Cahill