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From: Crash Lander on 25 Jul 2010 22:09 On Jul 26, 11:42 am, Crash Lander <slwatso...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 26, 11:33 am, PHATRS <stoptryingt...(a)m.me> wrote: > > > > > > > On 26/07/10 09:57, Crash Lander wrote: > > > > Hi guys. > > > My 88 tarago RV 2.2L manual won't start. > > > It's got good spark. It turns over as if it would start, but never > > > fires. > > > The RACV guy sprayed some carby primer stuff into the intake, and said > > > if it was not getting fuel, it would at least fire on this stuff, and > > > it didn't so he's ruled out a fuel issue as well. > > > Any other suggestions? Ignition coil maybe? Aren't the coils in these > > > things integrated into the distributor? Would the plugs still be > > > getting spark if it was the coil? I'm a bit stumped on this one. > > > Crash Lander > > > '88? Did they make cars that ran on petrol back then? I thought > > everything from last century ran on steam. Maybe you're using the wrong > > fuel. :P > > Yep, it was originally steam powered, but I had it converted. Even put > some new fangled things called injectors on it. It's a flash one mate! > Crash Lander- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Had it towed to the RACV depot. they just called me. The conversation went as follows: "Mechanic" (note use of inverted commas!) Uh, we THINK it's got a faulty starter motor, and that's stopping it from cranking, but the guy that attended the car last night, said it was cranking fine last night! Right now, it's just making clicking noises and not cranking the motor! Me: um, that would be because it's got a flat battery mate! "Mechanic": Oh, has it? Me: Yes! I flattened trhe battery trying to start it yesterday, and when the RACV guy came, he put his battery booster machine on it and was cranking it using that! "Mechanic:": Oh! OK, we'll I just go and check if we overlooked the flat battery and call you back! Haven't heard back again yet! lol! Fucken muppets! I'm no mechanic, but when a car won't start, even I know to check battery, spark, and fuel first! Crash Lander
From: Kev on 26 Jul 2010 01:23 Crash Lander wrote: > On Jul 26, 11:42 am, Crash Lander<slwatso...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Jul 26, 11:33 am, PHATRS<stoptryingt...(a)m.me> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 26/07/10 09:57, Crash Lander wrote: >> >>>> Hi guys. >>>> My 88 tarago RV 2.2L manual won't start. >>>> It's got good spark. It turns over as if it would start, but never >>>> fires. >>>> The RACV guy sprayed some carby primer stuff into the intake, and said >>>> if it was not getting fuel, it would at least fire on this stuff, and >>>> it didn't so he's ruled out a fuel issue as well. >>>> Any other suggestions? Ignition coil maybe? Aren't the coils in these >>>> things integrated into the distributor? Would the plugs still be >>>> getting spark if it was the coil? I'm a bit stumped on this one. >>>> Crash Lander >> >>> '88? Did they make cars that ran on petrol back then? I thought >>> everything from last century ran on steam. Maybe you're using the wrong >>> fuel. :P >> >> Yep, it was originally steam powered, but I had it converted. Even put >> some new fangled things called injectors on it. It's a flash one mate! >> Crash Lander- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Had it towed to the RACV depot. they just called me. The conversation > went as follows: > > "Mechanic" (note use of inverted commas!) Uh, we THINK it's got a > faulty starter motor, and that's stopping it from cranking, but the > guy that attended the car last night, said it was cranking fine last > night! Right now, it's just making clicking noises and not cranking > the motor! > Me: um, that would be because it's got a flat battery mate! > "Mechanic": Oh, has it? > Me: Yes! I flattened trhe battery trying to start it yesterday, and > when the RACV guy came, he put his battery booster machine on it and > was cranking it using that! > "Mechanic:": Oh! OK, we'll I just go and check if we overlooked the > flat battery and call you back! > > Haven't heard back again yet! lol! Fucken muppets! I'm no mechanic, > but when a car won't start, even I know to check battery, spark, and > fuel first! > Crash Lander Maybe he watches too much TV, you know where they are cranking the motor over just fine but it won't fire, so it's obviously a flat battery Or the engine won't turn over so they open the "Hood" and check the fuel throttlebody of the EFI and get oil sprayed on them and confirm it's the carby Kev
From: Crash Lander on 26 Jul 2010 01:27 On Jul 26, 3:23 pm, Kev <kev...(a)optunet.com.au> wrote: > Crash Lander wrote: > > On Jul 26, 11:42 am, Crash Lander<slwatso...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Jul 26, 11:33 am, PHATRS<stoptryingt...(a)m.me> wrote: > > >>> On 26/07/10 09:57, Crash Lander wrote: > > >>>> Hi guys. > >>>> My 88 tarago RV 2.2L manual won't start. > >>>> It's got good spark. It turns over as if it would start, but never > >>>> fires. > >>>> The RACV guy sprayed some carby primer stuff into the intake, and said > >>>> if it was not getting fuel, it would at least fire on this stuff, and > >>>> it didn't so he's ruled out a fuel issue as well. > >>>> Any other suggestions? Ignition coil maybe? Aren't the coils in these > >>>> things integrated into the distributor? Would the plugs still be > >>>> getting spark if it was the coil? I'm a bit stumped on this one. > >>>> Crash Lander > > >>> '88? Did they make cars that ran on petrol back then? I thought > >>> everything from last century ran on steam. Maybe you're using the wrong > >>> fuel. :P > > >> Yep, it was originally steam powered, but I had it converted. Even put > >> some new fangled things called injectors on it. It's a flash one mate! > >> Crash Lander- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Had it towed to the RACV depot. they just called me. The conversation > > went as follows: > > > "Mechanic" (note use of inverted commas!) Uh, we THINK it's got a > > faulty starter motor, and that's stopping it from cranking, but the > > guy that attended the car last night, said it was cranking fine last > > night! Right now, it's just making clicking noises and not cranking > > the motor! > > Me: um, that would be because it's got a flat battery mate! > > "Mechanic": Oh, has it? > > Me: Yes! I flattened trhe battery trying to start it yesterday, and > > when the RACV guy came, he put his battery booster machine on it and > > was cranking it using that! > > "Mechanic:": Oh! OK, we'll I just go and check if we overlooked the > > flat battery and call you back! > > > Haven't heard back again yet! lol! Fucken muppets! I'm no mechanic, > > but when a car won't start, even I know to check battery, spark, and > > fuel first! > > Crash Lander > > Maybe he watches too much TV, you know where they are cranking the motor > over just fine but it won't fire, so it's obviously a flat battery > > Or the engine won't turn over so they open the "Hood" and check the fuel > throttlebody of the EFI and get oil sprayed on them and confirm it's the > carby > > Kev- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Just rang them. Apparently the battery is not flat. It had a lose connection somewhere, but they still can't get it to fire up. They have confirmed it has spark, has fuel, and whilst they haven't done a compression test, they said it certainly sounds like it has compression. He's now suspecting something in the distributor. Hmmm. Maybe I should go work for the RACV, considering that's what I suspected it was in the first place! We'll see how we go. Crash lander
From: Jason James on 26 Jul 2010 02:39 "Crash Lander" <slwatson76(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:d00050d3-82e7-413b-b74e-> - Show quoted text - Just rang them. Apparently the battery is not flat. It had a lose connection somewhere, but they still can't get it to fire up. They have confirmed it has spark, has fuel, and whilst they haven't done a compression test, they said it certainly sounds like it has compression. He's now suspecting something in the distributor. Hmmm. Maybe I should go work for the RACV, considering that's what I suspected it was in the first place! We'll see how we go. If it has good spark and fuel,..you start to get into ignition timing and even valve timing if it has a rubber-toothed drive belt for the cams. If you had a timing light, you could have checked the timing during cranking ie trigger TL from number one cylinder,..aim at crankshaft pulley,..should get a burst of light close or at the timing marks,..especially about 10 degrees before TDC for number one. Other things like TDC sensor, massive airleaks, stuffed PCV valve (fucks mixture) and any other sensors relevant, can be the cause. In cases like this, a google on Toyota usenet groups, can tell you heaps :-) Engines dont suddenly lose so much compression that they fail to start,..its a progressive thing. If the spark is good at the coil,..that doesnt mean its getting to the plugs. A punched dizzy cap can poleaxe ignition (multiple carbon tracks thru cap which get much worse when the humidity rises for example. Best O luck,..dont take it to Toyota,.they rip you off. Jason
From: Kev on 26 Jul 2010 04:18
Crash Lander wrote: > On Jul 26, 3:23 pm, Kev<kev...(a)optunet.com.au> wrote: >> Crash Lander wrote: >>> On Jul 26, 11:42 am, Crash Lander<slwatso...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Jul 26, 11:33 am, PHATRS<stoptryingt...(a)m.me> wrote: >> >>>>> On 26/07/10 09:57, Crash Lander wrote: >> >>>>>> Hi guys. >>>>>> My 88 tarago RV 2.2L manual won't start. >>>>>> It's got good spark. It turns over as if it would start, but never >>>>>> fires. >>>>>> The RACV guy sprayed some carby primer stuff into the intake, and said >>>>>> if it was not getting fuel, it would at least fire on this stuff, and >>>>>> it didn't so he's ruled out a fuel issue as well. >>>>>> Any other suggestions? Ignition coil maybe? Aren't the coils in these >>>>>> things integrated into the distributor? Would the plugs still be >>>>>> getting spark if it was the coil? I'm a bit stumped on this one. >>>>>> Crash Lander >> >>>>> '88? Did they make cars that ran on petrol back then? I thought >>>>> everything from last century ran on steam. Maybe you're using the wrong >>>>> fuel. :P >> >>>> Yep, it was originally steam powered, but I had it converted. Even put >>>> some new fangled things called injectors on it. It's a flash one mate! >>>> Crash Lander- Hide quoted text - >> >>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>> Had it towed to the RACV depot. they just called me. The conversation >>> went as follows: >> >>> "Mechanic" (note use of inverted commas!) Uh, we THINK it's got a >>> faulty starter motor, and that's stopping it from cranking, but the >>> guy that attended the car last night, said it was cranking fine last >>> night! Right now, it's just making clicking noises and not cranking >>> the motor! >>> Me: um, that would be because it's got a flat battery mate! >>> "Mechanic": Oh, has it? >>> Me: Yes! I flattened trhe battery trying to start it yesterday, and >>> when the RACV guy came, he put his battery booster machine on it and >>> was cranking it using that! >>> "Mechanic:": Oh! OK, we'll I just go and check if we overlooked the >>> flat battery and call you back! >> >>> Haven't heard back again yet! lol! Fucken muppets! I'm no mechanic, >>> but when a car won't start, even I know to check battery, spark, and >>> fuel first! >>> Crash Lander >> >> Maybe he watches too much TV, you know where they are cranking the motor >> over just fine but it won't fire, so it's obviously a flat battery >> >> Or the engine won't turn over so they open the "Hood" and check the fuel >> throttlebody of the EFI and get oil sprayed on them and confirm it's the >> carby >> >> Kev- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Just rang them. Apparently the battery is not flat. It had a lose > connection somewhere, but they still can't get it to fire up. They > have confirmed it has spark, has fuel, and whilst they haven't done a > compression test, they said it certainly sounds like it has > compression. He's now suspecting something in the distributor. Hmmm. > Maybe I should go work for the RACV, considering that's what I > suspected it was in the first place! > We'll see how we go. > Crash lander when they say "It's goty fuel" what do they mean there is fuel in the tank? or fuel is getting up to the injectors did they check all the fuses/relays? it's EFI so could be as simple as a loose wire or your EFI module has gone Kev |