From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:09:44 -0500, hls wrote:

>
> "bob" <nottooslow42(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.252ca317d0e6f6bd9896bb(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> In article <e2a78983-5aac-431d-aa07-
>> 60f850e73d6b(a)x37g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, johngdole(a)hotmail.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> Toyota issued a second recall related to floor mats. The first one (Sep
>>> 2007) sure didn't help Lastrella's family of 4, who reported, according
>>> to 911 tape, that the car had no brakes!!
>>>
>>> "Chris Lastrella, were killed after reporting to a 911 operator that
>>> they could not stop their Lexus ES 350, as it careened down Route 125
>>> in Santee, Calif. The tape of the brief call was made public this
>>> month. It features the voice of Lastrella, telling the operator that
>>> the vehicle had no brakes. The call ended with occupants calling on
>>> each other to pray."
>>>
>>> http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20090929/AUTO01/909290412/1148/auto01/Government-issues--urgent--warning-to-remove-Toyota--Lexus-floor-mats
>>
>> The story I read on Yahoo today said that the NTSB had found that the
>> floor mats in the vehicle were larger than the proper size.
>>
>> I don't know if that means that the proper sized ones wouldn't have this
>> problem.
>>
>> Do Lexus vehicles have a hook to prevent the factory floor mats from
>> sliding forward?
>>
>> Bob
>
> Our Toyota Avalon and Solara both have these hooks on the drivers side,
> but not on the passengers side, which clearly signals that they dont want
> those carpets to slide into the pedal area.
>
> I bought some nice looking aftermarket mats for my car, and sure as heck
> they slide forward and can foul the pedals because they do not have this
> hook and eye arrangement.
>
> I suspect that this is the whole deal in a nutshell. I will have to
> stake down these protective mats, or get rid of them.

Get something like an 'eyelet' they put in canvas. Put a hole in the mat
where the hook is supposed to be, and press the eyelet in place.

You should be able to get them at a hardware store, or perhaps Tractor
Supply.



From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:27:53 -1000, dsi1 wrote:

> SMS wrote:
>>
>> I've had the problem of an after-market floor mat getting the
>> accelerator stuck on a non-Toyota, but I used my foot to unstick it.
>
> You have a very smart right foot. Hopefully, most folks will have feet as
> smart as yours. :-)

Oh, BOY! Could I make a response to THAT!!! ;p



From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:38:10 -0700, Hal wrote:

>> > All he had to do was turn off the key and use the e brake.
>>
>> Do try to keep up- no key, this is one of those transponder fob and
>> start button setups. And it was a loaner- he was not familiar with the
>> procedure to kill engine and not lock the wheel.
>>
>> --
>
> So put the transmission lever in neutral and let the engine rev itself off
> the limiter, so long as the engine and transaxle are disengaged the car
> will slow down....

That would be my advice.

All my cars have regular keys, up to the Scion. IIRC, to stop the engine
on a Prius, etc, you press the brake and push the button. I can't remember
if the trans has to be in N or P.




>
> The mindlessness of people just amazes me some days...if my car was
> going full-bore I'd shut the damn thing down one way or another. Turn
> off the key, press the clutch, pull the e-brake, put it in
> neutral....put it in park...I don't care. There is just no way a failure
> such as a stuck accelerator pedal, even on one of them drive- by-wire
> jobbies, should cause a car to be unstoppable.....
>
> Chris

From: dsi1 on
Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/ wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:27:53 -1000, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> SMS wrote:
>>> I've had the problem of an after-market floor mat getting the
>>> accelerator stuck on a non-Toyota, but I used my foot to unstick it.
>> You have a very smart right foot. Hopefully, most folks will have feet as
>> smart as yours. :-)
>
> Oh, BOY! Could I make a response to THAT!!! ;p
>

Congrats on your remarkable restraint, agent 86. I wish more folks were
like you. Then again, this place wouldn't be half as fun. :-)
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:03:51 -1000, dsi1 wrote:

> Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/ wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:27:53 -1000, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> SMS wrote:
>>>> I've had the problem of an after-market floor mat getting the
>>>> accelerator stuck on a non-Toyota, but I used my foot to unstick it.
>>> You have a very smart right foot. Hopefully, most folks will have feet
>>> as smart as yours. :-)
>>
>> Oh, BOY! Could I make a response to THAT!!! ;p
>>
>>
> Congrats on your remarkable restraint, agent 86. I wish more folks were
> like you. Then again, this place wouldn't be half as fun. :-)

Gotta give him a break once in a while.

I don't know why...