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From: C. E. White on 1 Oct 2009 07:39

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.09.30.01.45.05.255639(a)e86.GTS...
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:05:47 -0700, john wrote:
>
>>
>> "Chris Lastrella, were killed after reporting to a 911 operator
>> that they
>> could not stop their Lexus ES 350, as it careened down Route 125 in
>> Santee, Calif. The tape of the brief call was made public this
>> month. It
>> features the voice of Lastrella, telling the operator that the
>> vehicle had
>> no brakes. The call ended with occupants calling on each other to
>> pray."
>
> All he had to do was turn off the key and use the e brake.

The car had the push button start. A lot of people don't realize that
to kill the engine with one of those when the car is in gear you have
to push and hold the button in for 3 seconds or so.

Panic does strange things to peopel. Putting the car in neutral would
have solved the whole thing.

Ed


From: Michael on 14 Oct 2009 11:41
On Sep 29, 9:38 pm, Hal <hala...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > All he had to do was turn off the key and use the e brake.
>
> > Do try to keep up- no key, this is one of those transponder fob and
> > start button setups. And it was a loaner- he was not familiar with the
> > procedure to kill engine and not lock the wheel.
>
> > --
>
> So put the transmission lever in neutral and let the engine rev itself
> off the limiter, so long as the engine and transaxle are disengaged
> the car will slow down....


Maybe in flat eastern Nebraska or Iowa but not if he's going
downhill. Google Earth shows Hwy 125 in Santee, CA is in the hills/
mountains. That's going to take some skill to slow down.


>
> The mindlessness of people just amazes me some days...if my car was
> going full-bore I'd shut the damn thing down one way or another. Turn
> off the key, press the clutch, pull the e-brake, put it in
> neutral....put it in park...I don't care. There is just no way a
> failure such as a stuck accelerator pedal, even on one of them drive-
> by-wire jobbies, should cause a car to be unstoppable.....
>
> Chris


Michael
From: Gary L. Burnore on 16 Oct 2009 22:21
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), Michael
<mrdarrett(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sep 29, 9:38�pm, Hal <hala...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > All he had to do was turn off the key and use the e brake.
>>
>> > Do try to keep up- no key, this is one of those transponder fob and
>> > start button setups. And it was a loaner- he was not familiar with the
>> > procedure to kill engine and not lock the wheel.
>>
>> > --
>>
>> So put the transmission lever in neutral and let the engine rev itself
>> off the limiter, so long as the engine and transaxle are disengaged
>> the car will slow down....
>
>
>Maybe in flat eastern Nebraska or Iowa but not if he's going
>downhill. Google Earth shows Hwy 125 in Santee, CA is in the hills/
>mountains. That's going to take some skill to slow down.

He was a POLICE OFFICER. There was no excuse.

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