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From: Kev on 28 Apr 2010 15:15
The Raven wrote:

> As much as I love carbs for the ability to actually do something about a
> failure, it's not something I'd be proud of in a '92 era vehicle.

Maybe you should upgrade your knowledge to include fuel injection systems
then it wouldn't be a problem
Though EFI problems are usually very few and far between and a LOT less
hassle that carbs


Kev
From: The Raven on 28 Apr 2010 17:59
"Kev" <kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message
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> The Raven wrote:
>
>> As much as I love carbs for the ability to actually do something about a
>> failure, it's not something I'd be proud of in a '92 era vehicle.
>
> Maybe you should upgrade your knowledge to include fuel injection systems
> then it wouldn't be a problem

Reread the message, did I not imply that he should be looking at EFI and not
a carb? As for my knowledge on EFI, you have no way of knowing how informed
I am about it.

> Though EFI problems are usually very few and far between and a LOT less
> hassle that carbs

Agreed, but as I said above....at least you can attempt to fix a carb on the
side of the road. Most EFI failures will leave you stranded.


From: Noddy on 28 Apr 2010 21:36

"who where" <noone(a)home.net> wrote in message
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> Possibly a result of the gas conversion, although our '96 SJ model
> (2.0L petrol) has always idled fast until properly warmed up.

Part of the normal operation of the auto choke. They don't come off the high
idle until they're thoroughly warm.

> C##t of a job to reach, wedged inside/under the inlet manifold between
> #2 and #3. Been there, done that :-(

Yep, they're not good, but then not much is on these forward control vans.
Still, in having said that, the old Express/Starwagon is one of the better
ones and are generally exceptionally reliable.

> Was the 2.4L available back then? Don't believe so.

I don't belive so either.

He'll be struggling to find much of anything with a bigger or more powerful
engine for the kind of money an old Starwagon is likely to command, as
they're simply not out there. The 2 litre Mitsu certainly wasn't quick, but
it was *adequate* in my opinion and they're capable of reasonable
performance.

Like all vans, they're a wind sail and struggle at times, but then that's
the nature of the beast. If he comes across a van that drives like a
Commodore and is pretty cheap then I'd like to know what it is as I'll have
one too :)

--
Regards,
Noddy.


From: Crash Lander on 28 Apr 2010 23:49
Noddy wrote:

> If he comes across a van that drives like a Commodore and is pretty
> cheap then I'd like to know what it is as I'll have one too :)
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.

LOL, if I find one that drives like a Commodore, I'll keep my Falcon!
lol.
Crash Lander

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From: who where on 29 Apr 2010 21:11
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:36:21 +1000, "Noddy" <Mission.Control(a)NASA.com>
wrote:

>
>"who where" <noone(a)home.net> wrote in message
>news:imnht59lg791u5e4rl07l2o2dup7r77g13(a)4ax.com...
>
>> Possibly a result of the gas conversion, although our '96 SJ model
>> (2.0L petrol) has always idled fast until properly warmed up.
>
>Part of the normal operation of the auto choke. They don't come off the high
>idle until they're thoroughly warm.

Yes, but our SJ is obscenely so. Haven't figured a way to get it to
behave like a "normal" auto choke. Good thing the van isn't an A/T.

>> C##t of a job to reach, wedged inside/under the inlet manifold between
>> #2 and #3. Been there, done that :-(
>
>Yep, they're not good, but then not much is on these forward control vans.
>Still, in having said that, the old Express/Starwagon is one of the better
>ones and are generally exceptionally reliable.
>
>> Was the 2.4L available back then? Don't believe so.
>
>I don't belive so either.
>
>He'll be struggling to find much of anything with a bigger or more powerful
>engine for the kind of money an old Starwagon is likely to command, as
>they're simply not out there. The 2 litre Mitsu certainly wasn't quick, but
>it was *adequate* in my opinion and they're capable of reasonable
>performance.

Yup, the reason why we started with an SD ('88?) into which we stuck a
4G63 and 5-speed box, and later bought the '96 SJ. Hard to beat in
the category.

>Like all vans, they're a wind sail and struggle at times, but then that's
>the nature of the beast. If he comes across a van that drives like a
>Commodore and is pretty cheap then I'd like to know what it is as I'll have
>one too :)

Take a number and stand in line.
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