From: Tony Dragon on
loopy livernose wrote:
>
> "JMS" <jmsmith2010(a)live.co.uk > wrote in message
> news:lin2v5tutb2uhqfthc0jkscb7690j83l1a(a)4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> Lifted from uk.rec.cycling.moderated
>>
>>
>>> I found this overtake frightening!!
>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXnH8hjjgbw
>>
>>
>> What a prick.
>>
>> OK he had stopped and put a hand down - but not a foot.
>>
>> (PS He is an A* knob as he has to have two cameras)
>>
>>
>
> TBH if he found that frightening enough to post a vid and swear like
> that infront of a teenage girl.. then he should really park the bike and
> buy a pair of stout shoes..
>
> but I still fail to see anything dangerous about the police cars
> actions.. his bike didn't even fall over in the "wash"..

Perhaps he could submit his evidence when he makes a complaint about the
police driver.

--
Tony Dragon
From: Brimstone on


"Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message
news:3c8080bc-d0fc-4804-87ad-ceb36d8f65bc(a)m4g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
> On 17 May, 18:31, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> Roger Thorpe wrote:
>> > Mrcheerful wrote:
>>
>> >> the police driver would have been able to see that the cyclist had
>> >> stopped completely (and well short of the centre island, well
>> >> done!), which means the cyclist is NOT about to wobble all over the
>> >> road or suddenly jump 5 feet to the right, and therefore can be
>> >> passed quite closely without any significant danger.
>> >> if it was a horse then yes, the police should have passed much more
>> >> carefully, but this is an obviously (from the recumbent) experienced
>> >> (probably adult) cyclist that has completely stopped.
>>
>> > If we assume that it were safe would it still be good manners to give
>> > someone who expects not to be seen this kind of fright?
>>
>> Why was it a fright? He must have heard the sirens.
>>
> Because he is not protected by a metal box and is therefore a
> vulnerable road user but is not treated as such.
>>
>> The man is a well known knob. He has posted dozens of films on youtube
>> to
>> show how hard done by he is. Bit like Doug, but with a camera.
>>
> Seems like a good idea to video examples of bad driving and dangerous
> situations instead of trying to brush it all under the carpet. As I
> have cameras I might decide to start doing it, particularly drivers
> going through red lights and driving on pavements.
>
As long as you include examples of all bad behaviour on the roads Doug, your
efforts will be applauded.

Sadly, since there's no chance whatsoever of you including bad behaviour by
cyclists (especially yourself) and pedestrians you will get the same
reaction as usual.


From: Doug on
On 18 May, 07:07, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message
>
> news:3c8080bc-d0fc-4804-87ad-ceb36d8f65bc(a)m4g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On 17 May, 18:31, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
> > blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Roger Thorpe wrote:
> >> > Mrcheerful wrote:
>
> >> >> the police driver would have been able to see that the cyclist had
> >> >> stopped completely (and well short of the centre island, well
> >> >> done!), which means the cyclist is NOT about to wobble all over the
> >> >> road or suddenly jump 5 feet to the right, and therefore can be
> >> >> passed quite closely without any significant danger.
> >> >> if it was a horse then yes, the police should have passed much more
> >> >> carefully, but this is an obviously (from the recumbent) experienced
> >> >> (probably adult) cyclist that has completely stopped.
>
> >> > If we assume that it were safe would it still be good manners to give
> >> > someone who expects not to be seen this kind of fright?
>
> >> Why was it a fright?  He must have heard the sirens.
>
> > Because he is not protected by a metal box and is therefore a
> > vulnerable road user but is not treated as such.
>
> >> The man is a well known knob.  He has posted dozens of films on youtube
> >> to
> >> show how hard done by he is.  Bit like Doug, but with a camera.
>
> > Seems like a good idea to video examples of bad driving and dangerous
> > situations instead of trying to brush it all under the carpet. As I
> > have cameras I might decide to start doing it, particularly drivers
> > going through red lights and driving on pavements.
>
> As long as you include examples of all bad behaviour on the roads Doug, your
> efforts will be applauded.
>
> Sadly, since there's no chance whatsoever of you including bad behaviour by
> cyclists (especially yourself) and pedestrians you will get the same
> reaction as usual.
>
I don't need to. Bad behaviour by cyclists and pedestrians is covered
exhaustively by the motorists on these newsgroups. It is motorists bad
and much more dangerous behaviour that is glossed over and needs more
vigilance.

--
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From: Brimstone on


"Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message
news:a1678ee3-5071-4a4a-873a-e5622327981a(a)o12g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
> On 18 May, 07:07, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:3c8080bc-d0fc-4804-87ad-ceb36d8f65bc(a)m4g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On 17 May, 18:31, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
>> > blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> Roger Thorpe wrote:
>> >> > Mrcheerful wrote:
>>
>> >> >> the police driver would have been able to see that the cyclist had
>> >> >> stopped completely (and well short of the centre island, well
>> >> >> done!), which means the cyclist is NOT about to wobble all over the
>> >> >> road or suddenly jump 5 feet to the right, and therefore can be
>> >> >> passed quite closely without any significant danger.
>> >> >> if it was a horse then yes, the police should have passed much more
>> >> >> carefully, but this is an obviously (from the recumbent)
>> >> >> experienced
>> >> >> (probably adult) cyclist that has completely stopped.
>>
>> >> > If we assume that it were safe would it still be good manners to
>> >> > give
>> >> > someone who expects not to be seen this kind of fright?
>>
>> >> Why was it a fright? He must have heard the sirens.
>>
>> > Because he is not protected by a metal box and is therefore a
>> > vulnerable road user but is not treated as such.
>>
>> >> The man is a well known knob. He has posted dozens of films on
>> >> youtube
>> >> to
>> >> show how hard done by he is. Bit like Doug, but with a camera.
>>
>> > Seems like a good idea to video examples of bad driving and dangerous
>> > situations instead of trying to brush it all under the carpet. As I
>> > have cameras I might decide to start doing it, particularly drivers
>> > going through red lights and driving on pavements.
>>
>> As long as you include examples of all bad behaviour on the roads Doug,
>> your
>> efforts will be applauded.
>>
>> Sadly, since there's no chance whatsoever of you including bad behaviour
>> by
>> cyclists (especially yourself) and pedestrians you will get the same
>> reaction as usual.
>>
> I don't need to. Bad behaviour by cyclists and pedestrians is covered
> exhaustively by the motorists on these newsgroups. It is motorists bad
> and much more dangerous behaviour that is glossed over and needs more
> vigilance.
>
Thank you for confirming your inability to be impartial.


From: bugbear on
JMS wrote:
> On Mon, 17 May 2010 22:39:32 +0100, Roger Thorpe
> <myinitialdotmysurname(a)warwick.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> JMS wrote:
>>> On Mon, 17 May 2010 16:52:34 +0100, Roger Thorpe
>>> <myinitial.mysurname(a)warwick.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> JMS wrote:
>>>>> Lifted from uk.rec.cycling.moderated
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I found this overtake frightening!!
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXnH8hjjgbw
>>>>> What a prick.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK he had stopped and put a hand down - but not a foot.
>>>>>
>>>>> (PS He is an A* knob as he has to have two cameras)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> errrr.
>>>> why should he have put a foot down?
>>>
>>> Sorry - I thought that taking his foot (or even feet) off the pedal
>>> and putting it on the floor would have given him more stability - is
>>> that not the case?
>>>
>>> You know - two hands on the handle bars - one or two feet on the floor
>>> - that sort of thing.
>>>
>> I don't think that you've ever ridden a recumbent then.
>
>
> Did I say I had.

No. But strangely, you *were* handing out ill founded opinions on how to ride one.

BugBear