A Cyclist Knob with a Camera
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From: Doug on 18 May 2010 12:52 On 18 May, 14:51, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > > news:3c8080bc-d0fc-4804-87ad-ceb36d8f65bc(a)m4g2000vbl.googlegroups.com... > On 17 May, 18:31, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam- > > > > blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > Roger Thorpe wrote: > > > Mrcheerful wrote: > >> >> the police driver would have been able to see that the cyclist had > >> >> stopped completely (and well short of the centre island, well > >> >> done!), which means the cyclist is NOT about to wobble all over the > >> >> road or suddenly jump 5 feet to the right, and therefore can be > >> >> passed quite closely without any significant danger. > >> >> if it was a horse then yes, the police should have passed much more > >> >> carefully, but this is an obviously (from the recumbent) experienced > >> >> (probably adult) cyclist that has completely stopped. > > >> > If we assume that it were safe would it still be good manners to give > >> > someone who expects not to be seen this kind of fright? > > >> Why was it a fright? He must have heard the sirens. > > >Because he is not protected by a metal box and is therefore a > >vulnerable road user but is not treated as such. > > The police driver will have seen the adult pull over and stop as the sirens > moved closer. He left an 18-inch gap between his car and the stationary > vehicle as he knew that the cyclist was aware of the car's presense. If the > cyclist had not been aware of the police car, then the driver would have > left a much larger gap. > > >> The man is a well known knob. He has posted dozens of films on youtube to > >> show how hard done by he is. Bit like Doug, but with a camera. > > >Seems like a good idea to video examples of bad driving and dangerous > >situations instead of trying to brush it all under the carpet. As I > >have cameras I might decide to start doing it, particularly drivers > >going through red lights and driving on pavements. > > Good idea, then most cyclists would be banned - I rarely see a cyclist stop > for a red light!! I have never seen a car go throught a red light or drive > on the pavement. > That's because you are not looking for it and are only obsessed by cyclists. I, OTOH, have often seen cars going through red lights and sometimes driving along pavements. Also, they have to drive along pavements to parked there. > > The cyclist in the video has a number of clips posted on youtube. I have > just watched a few and it seems that he likes to ride along about 1m out > from the kerb which is fine. Problem is that he deliberately makes it hard > for people to overtake him, so when they do he suddenly drifts out a metre > or two apparently without looking or signalling. This clearly dangerous > behaviour is carefully timed to occur just as the cars go past, which > enables him to put on a frightened "waa" sound on film and then shout at > them at the next set of lights. He then carefully positions his bike in the > middle of the lane in front of all the cars who are patiently waiting their > turn at the lights and then sets off slowly, so as to ensnare his next > victim. He doesn't use the cycle lanes. He is clearly try to infuriate the > car drivers who *are* able to maintain an appropriate speed for the road. In > order to drive a car a driver must pass a test to prove their knowledge of > the highway code, a document stating that vehicles unable to maintain a > suitable speed for the road should pull over to let faster vehicles pass and > avoid frustration! > You just love motorists don't you and hate cyclists, that much is clearly apparent, despite the fact that motorists are much, much more dangerous than cyclists. -- UK Radical Campaigns. http://www.zing.icom43.net A driving licence is a licence to kill.
From: Tony Dragon on 18 May 2010 13:20 Brimstone wrote: > > > "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > news:3c8080bc-d0fc-4804-87ad-ceb36d8f65bc(a)m4g2000vbl.googlegroups.com... >> On 17 May, 18:31, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam- >> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>> Roger Thorpe wrote: >>> > Mrcheerful wrote: >>> >>> >> the police driver would have been able to see that the cyclist had >>> >> stopped completely (and well short of the centre island, well >>> >> done!), which means the cyclist is NOT about to wobble all over the >>> >> road or suddenly jump 5 feet to the right, and therefore can be >>> >> passed quite closely without any significant danger. >>> >> if it was a horse then yes, the police should have passed much more >>> >> carefully, but this is an obviously (from the recumbent) experienced >>> >> (probably adult) cyclist that has completely stopped. >>> >>> > If we assume that it were safe would it still be good manners to give >>> > someone who expects not to be seen this kind of fright? >>> >>> Why was it a fright? He must have heard the sirens. >>> >> Because he is not protected by a metal box and is therefore a >> vulnerable road user but is not treated as such. >>> >>> The man is a well known knob. He has posted dozens of films on >>> youtube to >>> show how hard done by he is. Bit like Doug, but with a camera. >>> >> Seems like a good idea to video examples of bad driving and dangerous >> situations instead of trying to brush it all under the carpet. As I >> have cameras I might decide to start doing it, particularly drivers >> going through red lights and driving on pavements. >> > As long as you include examples of all bad behaviour on the roads Doug, > your efforts will be applauded. > > Sadly, since there's no chance whatsoever of you including bad behaviour > by cyclists (especially yourself) and pedestrians you will get the same > reaction as usual. > > Doug has produced videos of bad and illegal behaviour by cyclists, have you not seen his CM videos. One even showed him parked on the zig zags of a crossing. -- Tony Dragon
From: Brimstone on 18 May 2010 13:39 "Tony Dragon" <tony.dragon(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message news:LN6dnSY6GqTwUW_WnZ2dnUVZ8kYzAAAA(a)bt.com... > Brimstone wrote: >> "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >> news:3c8080bc-d0fc-4804-87ad-ceb36d8f65bc(a)m4g2000vbl.googlegroups.com... >>> Seems like a good idea to video examples of bad driving and dangerous >>> situations instead of trying to brush it all under the carpet. As I >>> have cameras I might decide to start doing it, particularly drivers >>> going through red lights and driving on pavements. >>> >> As long as you include examples of all bad behaviour on the roads Doug, >> your efforts will be applauded. >> >> Sadly, since there's no chance whatsoever of you including bad behaviour >> by cyclists (especially yourself) and pedestrians you will get the same >> reaction as usual. > > Doug has produced videos of bad and illegal behaviour by cyclists, have > you not seen his CM videos. > One even showed him parked on the zig zags of a crossing. > You're right, I'd forgotten about those. Perhaps Doug can let us see them again?
From: The Medway Handyman on 18 May 2010 14:41 Doug wrote: > On 17 May, 18:31, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam- > blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> Roger Thorpe wrote: >>> Mrcheerful wrote: >> >>>> the police driver would have been able to see that the cyclist had >>>> stopped completely (and well short of the centre island, well >>>> done!), which means the cyclist is NOT about to wobble all over the >>>> road or suddenly jump 5 feet to the right, and therefore can be >>>> passed quite closely without any significant danger. >>>> if it was a horse then yes, the police should have passed much more >>>> carefully, but this is an obviously (from the recumbent) >>>> experienced (probably adult) cyclist that has completely stopped. >> >>> If we assume that it were safe would it still be good manners to >>> give someone who expects not to be seen this kind of fright? >> >> Why was it a fright? He must have heard the sirens. >> > Because he is not protected by a metal box and is therefore a > vulnerable road user but is not treated as such. So you agree a push bike is not a viable form of transport? At last. >> >> The man is a well known knob. He has posted dozens of films on >> youtube to show how hard done by he is. Bit like Doug, but with a >> camera. >> > Seems like a good idea to video examples of bad driving and dangerous > situations instead of trying to brush it all under the carpet. This knob is clearly desperately looking for anything that shows how hard done by he is. Two cameras on a push bike? > As I > have cameras I might decide to start doing it, particularly drivers > going through red lights and driving on pavements. You won't need much film. Drivers rarely jump lights or drive on pavements - that is the territory of the cyclist. -- Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a viable form of transport.
From: The Medway Handyman on 18 May 2010 14:46
Phil W Lee wrote: > ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> considered Tue, 18 May > 2010 09:58:49 +0100 the perfect time to write: > >> On Mon, 17 May 2010 18:31:07 +0100, "The Medway Handyman" >> <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> The man is a well known knob. He has posted dozens of films on >>> youtube to show how hard done by he is. Bit like Doug, but with a >>> camera. >> >> anyone who keeps two bicycles running the whole time and drives the >> pair of them with an oversized gas-guzzling engine in order to avoid >> exercise >> runs a good chance of being a fanatical prick. > > IFTFY ITYAACC. -- Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a viable form of transport. |