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From: Dr Zoidberg on 7 Feb 2010 09:08 "bikeulike" <bikeulike(a)bikeulike.com> wrote in message news:4b6dadb5$0$2488$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk... > Your on the motorway, lane 1. You are going exit at the next junction. The > exit slip road is two lanes as you leave it leads to a roundabout and you > intend to take the third exit at the roundabout (Turn right effectively). > Clearly you need to be in lane 2 of the slip road on the approach to the > roundabout. > Is the correct procedure. > > 1. Keep on the motorway and exit directly into lane 2 of the slip road. ie > Keeping the exit road markings to you left and turning directly into lane > 2 of the slip road. > > 2. Exit directly into lane 1 of the slip road and then move over to lane > two of the slip road. > > Problems. > > If you follow 1 above, You risk the car behind you trying to end up in the > same place (Slip road lane 2) > > If you follow 2 above, You risk a car overtaking you and trying to end up > in the same place. > > > I submit this question to the "Font of all knowledge" for the definitive > answer! I don't think there is a definitive answer. It's acceptable to do either in the eyes of the law and HC , but which will be best is going to vary depending on the junction itself and the levels of traffic around at the time -- Alex
From: Ian Jackson on 7 Feb 2010 09:17 In message <QNGdnQv347tnWfPWnZ2dnUVZ8h9i4p2d(a)pipex.net>, JNugent <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> writes >Ian Jackson wrote: >> In message <ws-dnYXDL5tSMvPWnZ2dnUVZ7rVi4p2d(a)giganews.com>, Ray >>Keattch <r.keattch5050(a)btinternet.com> writes >>> Ian Jackson wrote: >>> >>>> I rarely 'invite' undertakers! However, if they can't resist the >>>>urge to undertake you, all for the sake of one or two hundred yards >>>>of sliproad, just let them. You'll soon catch them up - sitting >>>>immediately in front of you, waiting to enter the roundabout. >>> >>> There is a much chance they will find a gap to use when they get to >>>the roundabout that you miss. If someone can pass you on the left, >>>you are in the wrong lane. >>> >> Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.... > >Why the sarcasm? > >*If* there are two lanes, and if they both lead to the same place in >the same direction, and if you are in a right-hand lane such that >someone can pass you whilst using the left-hand lane, you are in the >wrong lane, as the PP observed. > If there are two lanes, and there's a sign saying "Use both lanes", then yes, I will normally use Lane 1, unless there's a longish queue ahead (possibly many of the Lane 1 vehicles will be turning left) and Lane 2 is relatively clear, and it's sensible to equalise the lane occupancy. Keeping to Lane 1 leaves Lane 2 free for those who, as a matter of principle, take every opportunity to ensure that they get 'one step ahead'. I prefer these drivers to be in front of me, rather than behind! If there is no such sign, I'm certainly not going to select Lane 1, and leave the moving to Lane 2 until the very last moment. Good manners is one thing. Sheer stupidity is another! -- Ian
From: Ian Dalziel on 7 Feb 2010 09:27 On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:33:07 +0000, Ray Keattch <r.keattch5050(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >bikeulike wrote: >> Your on the motorway, lane 1. You are going exit at the next junction. >> The exit slip road is two lanes as you leave it leads to a roundabout >> and you intend to take the third exit at the roundabout (Turn right >> effectively). Clearly you need to be in lane 2 of the slip road on the >> approach to the roundabout. >> Is the correct procedure. >> >> 1. Keep on the motorway and exit directly into lane 2 of the slip road. >> ie Keeping the exit road markings to you left and turning directly into >> lane 2 of the slip road. >> >> 2. Exit directly into lane 1 of the slip road and then move over to lane >> two of the slip road. >> >> Problems. >> >> If you follow 1 above, You risk the car behind you trying to end up in >> the same place (Slip road lane 2) >> >> If you follow 2 above, You risk a car overtaking you and trying to end >> up in the same place. >> >> >> I submit this question to the "Font of all knowledge" for the definitive >> answer! > >Exit from lane one to lane one of the slip. Move to lane two as you >would do on any other road. If you have a tailgator or faster traffic, >make a decision, either ... > >1. Exit to lane one of the slip, allow them past then move to lane two >of the slip. > >2. Adjust speed and positioning to stay ahead of the other traffic. I >would exit in lane one of the slip but adjust speed and position quickly >into lane two. As you say, if you stay in lane one of the motorway and >exit straight into two, you run the risk of the other driver passing to >your left. I'd exit from lane one of the motorway to lane two of the sliproad unless there was something catching me quickly which looked to be taking the same exit - in that case I'd exit into lane one to let him pass cleanly. I think I could be overtaken on the nearside without dying of shock, though. -- Ian D
From: Ian Dalziel on 7 Feb 2010 09:30 On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:19:27 +0000, Ray Keattch <r.keattch5050(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >Ian Jackson wrote: > >> I rarely 'invite' undertakers! However, if they can't resist the urge to >> undertake you, all for the sake of one or two hundred yards of sliproad, >> just let them. You'll soon catch them up - sitting immediately in front >> of you, waiting to enter the roundabout. > >There is a much chance they will find a gap to use when they get to the >roundabout that you miss. If someone can pass you on the left, you are >in the wrong lane. On the motorway, yes. Approaching a roundabout, bollocks! -- Ian D
From: Ian Dalziel on 7 Feb 2010 09:32
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:49:46 +0000, JNugent <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: >Ian Jackson wrote: >> In message <ws-dnYXDL5tSMvPWnZ2dnUVZ7rVi4p2d(a)giganews.com>, Ray Keattch >> <r.keattch5050(a)btinternet.com> writes >>> Ian Jackson wrote: >>> >>>> I rarely 'invite' undertakers! However, if they can't resist the urge >>>> to undertake you, all for the sake of one or two hundred yards of >>>> sliproad, just let them. You'll soon catch them up - sitting >>>> immediately in front of you, waiting to enter the roundabout. >>> >>> There is a much chance they will find a gap to use when they get to >>> the roundabout that you miss. If someone can pass you on the left, >>> you are in the wrong lane. >>> >> Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.... > >Why the sarcasm? > >*If* there are two lanes, and if they both lead to the same place in the same >direction, and if you are in a right-hand lane such that someone can pass you >whilst using the left-hand lane, you are in the wrong lane, as the PP observed. > So if you're approaching a roundabout intending to turn right you should be in the left-hand lane? I think not. -- Ian D |