From: Clive George on
On 07/02/2010 14:32, Ian Dalziel wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:49:46 +0000, JNugent
> <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote:
>
>> Ian Jackson wrote:
>>> In message<ws-dnYXDL5tSMvPWnZ2dnUVZ7rVi4p2d(a)giganews.com>, Ray Keattch
>>> <r.keattch5050(a)btinternet.com> writes
>>>> Ian Jackson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I rarely 'invite' undertakers! However, if they can't resist the urge
>>>>> to undertake you, all for the sake of one or two hundred yards of
>>>>> sliproad, just let them. You'll soon catch them up - sitting
>>>>> immediately in front of you, waiting to enter the roundabout.
>>>>
>>>> There is a much chance they will find a gap to use when they get to
>>>> the roundabout that you miss. If someone can pass you on the left,
>>>> you are in the wrong lane.
>>>>
>>> Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear....
>>
>> Why the sarcasm?
>>
>> *If* there are two lanes, and if they both lead to the same place in the same
>> direction, and if you are in a right-hand lane such that someone can pass you
>> whilst using the left-hand lane, you are in the wrong lane, as the PP observed.
>>
>
> So if you're approaching a roundabout intending to turn right you
> should be in the left-hand lane? I think not.

He was quite careful to ensure his phrasing didn't include what was
being talked about in this thread - approaching the roundabout the lanes
don't lead to the same place. 'course that makes his comment irrelevant...

From: Harry Bloomfield on
Ian Jackson brought next idea :
> In message <QNGdnQv347tnWfPWnZ2dnUVZ8h9i4p2d(a)pipex.net>, JNugent
> <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> writes
>>Ian Jackson wrote:
>>> In message <ws-dnYXDL5tSMvPWnZ2dnUVZ7rVi4p2d(a)giganews.com>, Ray Keattch
>>> <r.keattch5050(a)btinternet.com> writes
>>>> Ian Jackson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I rarely 'invite' undertakers! However, if they can't resist the urge
>>>>> to undertake you, all for the sake of one or two hundred yards of
>>>>> sliproad, just let them. You'll soon catch them up - sitting immediately
>>>>> in front of you, waiting to enter the roundabout.
>>>>
>>>> There is a much chance they will find a gap to use when they get to the
>>>> roundabout that you miss. If someone can pass you on the left, you are
>>>> in the wrong lane.
>>>>
>>> Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear....
>>
>>Why the sarcasm?
>>
>>*If* there are two lanes, and if they both lead to the same place in the
>> same direction, and if you are in a right-hand lane such that someone can
>> pass you whilst using the left-hand lane, you are in the wrong lane, as the
>> PP observed.
>>
> If there are two lanes, and there's a sign saying "Use both lanes", then yes,
> I will normally use Lane 1, unless there's a longish queue ahead (possibly
> many of the Lane 1 vehicles will be turning left) and Lane 2 is relatively
> clear, and it's sensible to equalise the lane occupancy.

Why do you need to be told by a sign to use both lanes, when it is
obvious that you should?

> Keeping to Lane 1
> leaves Lane 2 free for those who, as a matter of principle, take every
> opportunity to ensure that they get 'one step ahead'. I prefer these drivers
> to be in front of me, rather than behind!

Nothing at all wrong with making proper progress.

> If there is no such sign, I'm certainly not going to select Lane 1, and leave
> the moving to Lane 2 until the very last moment. Good manners is one thing.
> Sheer stupidity is another!

Even when making progress, I use lane 1 if it is sensible and safer to
do so, then progress over to L2. Usually it is by far the safer option
to take anyway, because there will be no vehicles trying to cross your
path and I can make the decision when to move over to L2.

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From: Harry Bloomfield on
Ian Dalziel explained :
>>
>> *If* there are two lanes, and if they both lead to the same place in the
>> same
>> direction, and if you are in a right-hand lane such that someone can pass
>> you
>> whilst using the left-hand lane, you are in the wrong lane, as the PP
>> observed.
>>
>
> So if you're approaching a roundabout intending to turn right you
> should be in the left-hand lane? I think not.

He said BOTH lanes leading to the same direction.

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From: Ian Dalziel on
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:00:44 GMT, Harry Bloomfield
<harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>Ian Dalziel explained :
>>>
>>> *If* there are two lanes, and if they both lead to the same place in the
>>> same
>>> direction, and if you are in a right-hand lane such that someone can pass
>>> you
>>> whilst using the left-hand lane, you are in the wrong lane, as the PP
>>> observed.
>>>
>>
>> So if you're approaching a roundabout intending to turn right you
>> should be in the left-hand lane? I think not.
>
>He said BOTH lanes leading to the same direction.

Both lanes approaching a roundbout lead to the roundabout.

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From: Harry Bloomfield on
on 07/02/2010, Ian Dalziel supposed :
> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:00:44 GMT, Harry Bloomfield
> <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Ian Dalziel explained :
>>>>
>>>> *If* there are two lanes, and if they both lead to the same place in the
>>>> same
>>>> direction, and if you are in a right-hand lane such that someone can pass
>>>> you
>>>> whilst using the left-hand lane, you are in the wrong lane, as the PP
>>>> observed.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So if you're approaching a roundabout intending to turn right you
>>> should be in the left-hand lane? I think not.
>>
>> He said BOTH lanes leading to the same direction.
>
> Both lanes approaching a roundbout lead to the roundabout.

...and at the roundabout - you take a direction.

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Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk