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From: Mr Pounder on 7 Feb 2010 11:48 "Tony Dragon" <tony.dragon(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message news:Y9adndrAFJ0nePPWnZ2dnUVZ7vVi4p2d(a)bt.com... > Mr Pounder wrote: >> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dragon(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message >> news:AoKdnYbFxvMsVfPWnZ2dnUVZ7rmdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>> Mr Pounder wrote: >>>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dragon(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>> news:NLednW4TD_NXKvDWnZ2dnUVZ8kti4p2d(a)bt.com... >>>>> Mr Pounder wrote: >>>>>> "bikeulike" <bikeulike(a)bikeulike.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4b6dadb5$0$2488$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk... >>>>>>> Your on the motorway, lane 1. You are going exit at the next >>>>>>> junction. The exit slip road is two lanes as you leave it leads to a >>>>>>> roundabout and you intend to take the third exit at the roundabout >>>>>>> (Turn right effectively). Clearly you need to be in lane 2 of the >>>>>>> slip road on the approach to the roundabout. >>>>>>> Is the correct procedure. >>>>>> I would say so. >>>>>>> 1. Keep on the motorway and exit directly into lane 2 of the slip >>>>>>> road. ie Keeping the exit road markings to you left and turning >>>>>>> directly into lane 2 of the slip road. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Exit directly into lane 1 of the slip road and then move over to >>>>>>> lane two of the slip road. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Problems. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you follow 1 above, You risk the car behind you trying to end up >>>>>>> in the same place (Slip road lane 2) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you follow 2 above, You risk a car overtaking you and trying to >>>>>>> end up in the same place. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I submit this question to the "Font of all knowledge" for the >>>>>>> definitive answer! >>>>>> Wrong group, but I would say keep in lane two then indicate well in >>>>>> advance and drift into lane one. >>>>>> I do this five nights per week going home. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mr Bloody Pounder >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Do you cause many accidents by taking the 3rd exit at a roundabout and >>>>> entering that roundabout from lane one of the slip road, or did you >>>>> not read the post correctly? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Tony Dragon >>>> Read the posting again bollock brains. >>>> >>>> Mr Bloody Pounder >>> Well thank you for your knowledge of talking bollocks. >>> Now back to what was posted. >>> If you care to read what was posted you will see (I know it will be >>> difficult for you)that the poster was talking about lane 1 & 2 of the >>> slip road ( now note that lanes 1 & 2 of the slip road) >>> >>> You posted 'keep in lane 2', 'drift into lane 1' >>> Now turning right from lane 1 of the slip road at the roundabout would >>> be incorrect in most circumstances. >>> >>> Hence my question about you not reading the post correctly. >>> >>> Now 'bollock brains' has read the post again & decided that it is you >>> who is speaking bollocks or as I said did you misread the OP? >>> >>> -- >>> Tony Dragon >> >> Can you run that past me again please? >> >> Mr Pounder > > What bit did you not understand? > > -- > Tony Dragon There was something there that got me all confused and upset. This is why I am asking you to tell me all about it again please. There's a good fellow. Mr Pounder
From: Ray Keattch on 7 Feb 2010 15:35 Ian Dalziel wrote: > On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:19:27 +0000, Ray Keattch > <r.keattch5050(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > >> Ian Jackson wrote: >> >>> I rarely 'invite' undertakers! However, if they can't resist the urge to >>> undertake you, all for the sake of one or two hundred yards of sliproad, >>> just let them. You'll soon catch them up - sitting immediately in front >>> of you, waiting to enter the roundabout. >> There is a much chance they will find a gap to use when they get to the >> roundabout that you miss. If someone can pass you on the left, you are >> in the wrong lane. > > On the motorway, yes. Approaching a roundabout, bollocks! Depends how close to the roundabout. Drivers are getting into the habit now of getting in the right lane (when turning right) at the earliest opportunity - even if this is a mile before the junction/turn/roundabout. In general terms, if someone can pass you on the left, you are in the wrong lane. -- MrBitsy
From: Ray Keattch on 7 Feb 2010 15:38 Ian Dalziel wrote: > On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:00:44 GMT, Harry Bloomfield > <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > >> Ian Dalziel explained : >>>> >>>> *If* there are two lanes, and if they both lead to the same place in the >>>> same >>>> direction, and if you are in a right-hand lane such that someone can pass >>>> you >>>> whilst using the left-hand lane, you are in the wrong lane, as the PP >>>> observed. >>>> >>> So if you're approaching a roundabout intending to turn right you >>> should be in the left-hand lane? I think not. >> He said BOTH lanes leading to the same direction. > > Both lanes approaching a roundbout lead to the roundabout. A1 northbound, exit to Welwyn Garden City (just after leaving the Hatfield Tunnel. Two lanes on the sliproad to a roundabout. The only option is to turn right (if not going back onto the northbound carriageway). So many numpties get upset when you pass them on the left approaching the roundabout. -- MrBitsy
From: Ian Jackson on 7 Feb 2010 15:50 In message <b4adnelJTo9XufLWnZ2dnUVZ8l1i4p2d(a)giganews.com>, Ray Keattch <r.keattch5050(a)btinternet.com> writes >Ian Dalziel wrote: >> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:00:44 GMT, Harry Bloomfield >> <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> Ian Dalziel explained : >>>>> *If* there are two lanes, and if they both lead to the same >>>>>place in the same direction, and if you are in a right-hand lane >>>>>such that someone can pass you whilst using the left-hand lane, >>>>>you are in the wrong lane, as the PP observed. >>>>> >>>> So if you're approaching a roundabout intending to turn right you >>>> should be in the left-hand lane? I think not. >>> He said BOTH lanes leading to the same direction. >> Both lanes approaching a roundbout lead to the roundabout. > >A1 northbound, exit to Welwyn Garden City (just after leaving the >Hatfield Tunnel. Two lanes on the sliproad to a roundabout. The only >option is to turn right (if not going back onto the northbound >carriageway). > >So many numpties get upset when you pass them on the left approaching >the roundabout. > Unless Lane 2 is already queuing to enter the roundabout (stationary or almost stationary), is there actually any NEED to pass them on the left? While it may be arguably legal to do so, do you really HAVE to (just because you can)? Undertaking can be a fairly dangerous thing to do, and is best undertaken (no pun intended) with a certain amount of circumspection. I know I certainly circumspect myself before I do it. ;o)) -- Ian
From: Harry Bloomfield on 7 Feb 2010 17:14
Ray Keattch laid this down on his screen : > A1 northbound, exit to Welwyn Garden City (just after leaving the Hatfield > Tunnel. Two lanes on the sliproad to a roundabout. The only option is to > turn right (if not going back onto the northbound carriageway). > > So many numpties get upset when you pass them on the left approaching the > roundabout. Exactly the same layout as the one I mentioned and I get a fairly similar response for my using L1 and leaving them to their orderly queue - good innit? -- Regards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk |