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From: JNugent on 7 Feb 2010 19:10 Ian Dalziel wrote: > On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:49:46 +0000, JNugent > <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: > >> Ian Jackson wrote: >>> In message <ws-dnYXDL5tSMvPWnZ2dnUVZ7rVi4p2d(a)giganews.com>, Ray Keattch >>> <r.keattch5050(a)btinternet.com> writes >>>> Ian Jackson wrote: >>>> >>>>> I rarely 'invite' undertakers! However, if they can't resist the urge >>>>> to undertake you, all for the sake of one or two hundred yards of >>>>> sliproad, just let them. You'll soon catch them up - sitting >>>>> immediately in front of you, waiting to enter the roundabout. >>>> There is a much chance they will find a gap to use when they get to >>>> the roundabout that you miss. If someone can pass you on the left, >>>> you are in the wrong lane. >>>> >>> Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.... >> Why the sarcasm? >> >> *If* there are two lanes, and if they both lead to the same place in the same >> direction, and if you are in a right-hand lane such that someone can pass you >> whilst using the left-hand lane, you are in the wrong lane, as the PP observed. >> > > So if you're approaching a roundabout intending to turn right you > should be in the left-hand lane? I think not. In that case, those lanes don't "lead to the same place". I worded my post carefully.
From: JNugent on 7 Feb 2010 19:12 Ian Dalziel wrote: > On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:00:44 GMT, Harry Bloomfield > <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > >> Ian Dalziel explained : >>>> >>>> *If* there are two lanes, and if they both lead to the same place in the >>>> same >>>> direction, and if you are in a right-hand lane such that someone can pass >>>> you >>>> whilst using the left-hand lane, you are in the wrong lane, as the PP >>>> observed. >>>> >>> So if you're approaching a roundabout intending to turn right you >>> should be in the left-hand lane? I think not. >> He said BOTH lanes leading to the same direction. > > Both lanes approaching a roundbout lead to the roundabout. But one is the correct lane for turning right and the other is the correct lane for turning left. The original "argument" was about a slip road joining a grade-separated road, not a carriageway approaching a roundabout.
From: Ian Dalziel on 7 Feb 2010 19:53 On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:12:39 +0000, JNugent <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: >Ian Dalziel wrote: >> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:00:44 GMT, Harry Bloomfield >> <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> Ian Dalziel explained : >>>>> >>>>> *If* there are two lanes, and if they both lead to the same place in the >>>>> same >>>>> direction, and if you are in a right-hand lane such that someone can pass >>>>> you >>>>> whilst using the left-hand lane, you are in the wrong lane, as the PP >>>>> observed. >>>>> >>>> So if you're approaching a roundabout intending to turn right you >>>> should be in the left-hand lane? I think not. >>> He said BOTH lanes leading to the same direction. >> >> Both lanes approaching a roundbout lead to the roundabout. > >But one is the correct lane for turning right and the other is the correct >lane for turning left. > >The original "argument" was about a slip road joining a grade-separated road, >not a carriageway approaching a roundabout. "The exit slip road is two lanes as you leave it leads to a roundabout"
From: Ian Dalziel on 7 Feb 2010 19:57 On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:10:42 +0000, JNugent <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: >Ian Dalziel wrote: >> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:49:46 +0000, JNugent >> <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: >> >>> Ian Jackson wrote: >>>> In message <ws-dnYXDL5tSMvPWnZ2dnUVZ7rVi4p2d(a)giganews.com>, Ray Keattch >>>> <r.keattch5050(a)btinternet.com> writes >>>>> Ian Jackson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I rarely 'invite' undertakers! However, if they can't resist the urge >>>>>> to undertake you, all for the sake of one or two hundred yards of >>>>>> sliproad, just let them. You'll soon catch them up - sitting >>>>>> immediately in front of you, waiting to enter the roundabout. >>>>> There is a much chance they will find a gap to use when they get to >>>>> the roundabout that you miss. If someone can pass you on the left, >>>>> you are in the wrong lane. >>>>> >>>> Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.... >>> Why the sarcasm? >>> >>> *If* there are two lanes, and if they both lead to the same place in the same >>> direction, and if you are in a right-hand lane such that someone can pass you >>> whilst using the left-hand lane, you are in the wrong lane, as the PP observed. >>> >> >> So if you're approaching a roundabout intending to turn right you >> should be in the left-hand lane? I think not. > >In that case, those lanes don't "lead to the same place". I worded my post >carefully. They most certainly do, unless a roundabout can be in more than one place at the same time. I think you should have worded it a little more carefully.
From: JNugent on 7 Feb 2010 20:08
Ian Dalziel wrote: > On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:12:39 +0000, JNugent > <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: > >> Ian Dalziel wrote: >>> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:00:44 GMT, Harry Bloomfield >>> <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Ian Dalziel explained : >>>>>> >>>>>> *If* there are two lanes, and if they both lead to the same place in the >>>>>> same >>>>>> direction, and if you are in a right-hand lane such that someone can pass >>>>>> you >>>>>> whilst using the left-hand lane, you are in the wrong lane, as the PP >>>>>> observed. >>>>>> >>>>> So if you're approaching a roundabout intending to turn right you >>>>> should be in the left-hand lane? I think not. >>>> He said BOTH lanes leading to the same direction. >>> Both lanes approaching a roundbout lead to the roundabout. >> But one is the correct lane for turning right and the other is the correct >> lane for turning left. >> The original "argument" was about a slip road joining a grade-separated road, >> not a carriageway approaching a roundabout. > "The exit slip road is two lanes as you leave it leads to a > roundabout" OK. |