From: SteveH on 25 Jul 2007 10:10 Clive George <clive(a)xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > But Burgerman has carefully said he's not talking about > those - so why do you keep ignoring what he says and pretending the second > set are related to the first? You misunderstand me. I have very little faith in any figure that claims to be 'corrected' - as this almost always means it's being fudged to make it look more favourable to the target audience of the person producing said figure. Maybe I'm just sick of marketing people quoting 'corrected' or 'seasonally adjusted' figures to me..... -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
From: Carl Gibbs on 25 Jul 2007 10:26 "SteveH" <steve(a)italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message news:1i1tbce.11l6pcg1ue2lupN%steve(a)italiancar.co.uk... > Clive George <clive(a)xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > >> But Burgerman has carefully said he's not talking about >> those - so why do you keep ignoring what he says and pretending the >> second >> set are related to the first? > > You misunderstand me. > > I have very little faith in any figure that claims to be 'corrected' - > as this almost always means it's being fudged to make it look more > favourable to the target audience of the person producing said figure. > Yeah but it's based on known quantities and is pretty simple. Probably GCSE physics FFS! And anyway, it wont always make the figures look more favourable.
From: SteveH on 25 Jul 2007 10:37 Carl Gibbs <cagmeister(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > I have very little faith in any figure that claims to be 'corrected' - > > as this almost always means it's being fudged to make it look more > > favourable to the target audience of the person producing said figure. > > > Yeah but it's based on known quantities and is pretty simple. Probably GCSE > physics FFS! Yeah, I understand exactly what the theories are. All I'm saying is that 'corrected' figures are almost always used to hide something / fiddle the figures to show what you want them to show. I deal with 'corrected' figures all the time - but no matter how sound the theory is behind them, they'll always be a fiddle. -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
From: Burgerman on 25 Jul 2007 10:51 "Clive George" <clive(a)xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:46a7570b$0$1589$ed2619ec(a)ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net... > "SteveH" <steve(a)italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message > news:1i1t9m7.1rg54ui1qybbk2N%steve(a)italiancar.co.uk... >> Burgerman <burgerman(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >>> Prey tell us how? >> >> 'Corrected' = 'fudged to say whatever the punter wants to hear' > > Ok, I've now heard two bits of this. So there are two sets of corrections > : one based on environmental conditions, set according to known standards. Yes. And > the other which is the fudge factor to convert from wheel BHP to engine > BHP. No theres no such thing. > Now I think we all know the latter are the ones which are notorious for > being over-egged. But Burgerman has carefully said he's not talking about > those - so why do you keep ignoring what he says and pretending the second > set are related to the first? > > clive Cos hes simple and has put foot in mouth... >
From: SteveH on 25 Jul 2007 10:52
Burgerman <burgerman(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > Cos hes simple and has put foot in mouth... Oh, the irony. <my work here is done> -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # |