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From: Bob Jones on 13 Oct 2008 20:38 "L Alpert" <alpertl(a)xxgmail.com> wrote in message news:vvHIk.2424$Ei5.233(a)flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com... > > "Bob Jones" <email(a)me.not> wrote in message > news:pwpIk.3148$as4.2210(a)nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com... >>> I have had Honda vehicles for 30+ years, and never used any Honda >>> branded fluids, and never had an issue, though my personal experiences >>> are a small sample size as well, even if they differ from yours. >>> >> >> What year is your Honda? Maybe older models are not subject to this kind >> of requirements. >> >> On my 2005 service manual, it clearly say that non-Honda antifreeze could >> lead to corrossion. I am not sure if Prestone will do that but why take >> the chance. Antifreeze is much cheaper than a water pump or a radiator. >> > > '79 Accord, '82 Accord, '01 Accord, '02 Civic, '04 Accord (the '01 and '04 > Accords are current). Non silicate DAT type antifreeze is all that is > required for newer Honda vehicles, a type that every major manufacturer > makes. > When did you replace antifreeze on 04 Accord? The original should last for 120k/10 years.
From: SoCalMike on 14 Oct 2008 02:48 Retired VIP wrote: > On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 13:34:01 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" > <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote: > >> In article <%n4Ik.4646$Ws1.901(a)nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>, >> "L Alpert" <alpertl(a)xxsbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> I have never had an issue with the Hondas I have owned over the past 30 >>> years or so using off the shelf items such as ATF, antifreeze, brake fluid, >>> oil, etc. >>> >>> I seriously doubt that there is anything "special" about them other than the >>> label. >> Go ahead, then, use non-Honda ATF and tell us what you think. >> >> Same with coolant. >> >> Shoot, same with power steering fluid nowadays. >> >> They're all part of a complex system that's highly engineered. Long >> gone are the days of everybody using the same stuff that's off the shelf >> at Goober's gas station. > > What is so 'highly engineered' about a power steering system? Exactly > what is there about Honda, Toyota, GM, Ford or Chrysler power steering > fluid that makes it special? ATF fluid needs to supply the proper > friction modifiers so there is a difference between Ford and GM ATF > but if the after-market ATF has the proper modifiers, it will perform > the same as the OEM stuff. > > I've been using Preston Anti-freeze (the green stuff) in my cars for > the last 45 years and I have never had a engine or cooling system > problem that could have been caused by the coolant. Why pay $15.00 a > gallon for anti-freeze that carries a GM or Ford brand when I can get > something just as good for half the price? green stuff isnt good with aluminum. > > Jack
From: SoCalMike on 14 Oct 2008 02:54 jim beam wrote: > * use of non-honda power steering fluid in a honda system wrecks seals. > i know that from personal experience. > > * use of non-honda transmission fluid, even one that allegedly exceeds > the nominal dexron II spec, makes a honda transmission shift like you've > been rear-ended. i know that from personal experience. > > i don't know any different facts on honda coolant or brake fluids, but > based on the above, i can easily believe them to be of a high spec that > exceeds relabeled generics. ive never had a prob with using the red dexcool (silicate free, aluminum safe) on any of my japanese vehicles. and unless the brake system uses silicone fluid, regular DOT 3/4 works great, changed every 2-3yrs as required. i do agree totally with you on the tranny fluid, though. thats a common issue, and not just on hondas. Mopar has their own spec, as well.
From: SoCalMike on 14 Oct 2008 02:56 L Alpert wrote: > Why would Honda require a coolant different than Audi, Nissan, Toyota, > Subaru, Jaguar, Porsche or (place your brand of vehicle here)? Would > all of these auto manufacturers as well as all of the others specify > something different? > > IIRC, VAG (volkwagen/audi) spec a different type of coolant.
From: SoCalMike on 14 Oct 2008 02:58
Bob Jones wrote: > When did you replace antifreeze on 04 Accord? The original should last for > 120k/10 years. FWIW, toyotas ATF is "lifetime" and the coolant is good for 120k. |