From: jim beam on
On 02/23/2010 08:33 PM, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:59:48 -0600, Bob Cooper wrote:
>
>> In article<0ae546ee-0551-4461-b091-
>> 8c5a097a99ef(a)b7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Mark_Ransley(a)Yahoo.com says...
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 7:35 pm, Hachiroku<Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>>>> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no
>>>> effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the
>>>> emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the car into
>>>> reverse and I couldn't."
>>>>
>>>> Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with
>>>> with a clue on this one.
>>>>
>>>> BTW< the car was a Lexus.
>>>
>>> Now the bull starts, and you are the one starting it. Did you know 70%
>>> of Toyotas complaints for self acceleration don`t even cover the
>>> recalled cars, that is from Toyotas own internal documents. And of
>>> course you were with the lady when her occurance happened, so you Know
>>> its bull for a fact.
>>
>> Uh, you must be mistaken.
>> This fellow knows quite a bit about cars. And his auto insights have shown
>> the Toyota problem is really GM's fault, along with Toyota owners who have
>> lied before Congress. I would go so far as to say he is the world's
>> foremost expert. And he has been kind enough to bring his Toyota insights
>> to the tech group to educate all of us who do mechanical work on cars. I
>> can't tell tell you how much we appreciate that.
>
>
> Don't mention it. Any time you need any help, you just ask me.
> I'd be glad to help you out. You do know what a car is, right?
>
> Here, one more time for you:
>
>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>>>> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no
>>>> effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the
>>>> emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the car into
>>>> reverse and I couldn't."

all under oath...

i've been to hearings like this and seen people perjure themselves with
very little provocation or pay. it's not uncommon.

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From: cuhulin on
I never watch those 24/7 so-called ''news'' tv programs.
cuhulin

From: Hachiroku on
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:43:42 -0800, jim beam wrote:

> On 02/23/2010 08:33 PM, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:59:48 -0600, Bob Cooper wrote:
>>
>>> In article<0ae546ee-0551-4461-b091-
>>> 8c5a097a99ef(a)b7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Mark_Ransley(a)Yahoo.com
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 7:35 pm, Hachiroku<Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>>>>> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no
>>>>> effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the
>>>>> emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the car
>>>>> into reverse and I couldn't."
>>>>>
>>>>> Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with
>>>>> with a clue on this one.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW< the car was a Lexus.
>>>>
>>>> Now the bull starts, and you are the one starting it. Did you know 70%
>>>> of Toyotas complaints for self acceleration don`t even cover the
>>>> recalled cars, that is from Toyotas own internal documents. And of
>>>> course you were with the lady when her occurance happened, so you Know
>>>> its bull for a fact.
>>>
>>> Uh, you must be mistaken.
>>> This fellow knows quite a bit about cars. And his auto insights have
>>> shown the Toyota problem is really GM's fault, along with Toyota owners
>>> who have lied before Congress. I would go so far as to say he is the
>>> world's foremost expert. And he has been kind enough to bring his
>>> Toyota insights to the tech group to educate all of us who do
>>> mechanical work on cars. I can't tell tell you how much we appreciate
>>> that.
>>
>>
>> Don't mention it. Any time you need any help, you just ask me. I'd be
>> glad to help you out. You do know what a car is, right?
>>
>> Here, one more time for you:
>>
>>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>>>>> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no
>>>>> effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the
>>>>> emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the car
>>>>> into reverse and I couldn't."
>
> all under oath...
>
> i've been to hearings like this and seen people perjure themselves with
> very little provocation or pay. it's not uncommon.

I'm not sure she perjured herself, but I'd bet she should NOT be behind
the wheel of a car. ANY car.

If you can't handle a situation like that, you shouldn't be driving. As I
said, she probably had it in "Sport" and didn't bring it back through the
gate into Neutral. That's the only way the car wouldn't stop in neutral.

And she must have gotten it stopped SOMEHOW, since she was there to tell
the tale.



From: Hachiroku on
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:48:19 +0000, M.A. Stewart wrote:

>> Here's the steep hill,
>> http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=TM&t=5d&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=
>
>
> Is it as steep as this?
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=MTLQQ.PK&t=my&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=


Nah, that's the correct data pertaining to Global Warming...


From: jim beam on
On 02/23/2010 09:25 PM, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:43:42 -0800, jim beam wrote:
>
>> On 02/23/2010 08:33 PM, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:59:48 -0600, Bob Cooper wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article<0ae546ee-0551-4461-b091-
>>>> 8c5a097a99ef(a)b7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Mark_Ransley(a)Yahoo.com
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 7:35 pm, Hachiroku<Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>>>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>>>>>> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no
>>>>>> effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the
>>>>>> emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the car
>>>>>> into reverse and I couldn't."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with
>>>>>> with a clue on this one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW< the car was a Lexus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now the bull starts, and you are the one starting it. Did you know 70%
>>>>> of Toyotas complaints for self acceleration don`t even cover the
>>>>> recalled cars, that is from Toyotas own internal documents. And of
>>>>> course you were with the lady when her occurance happened, so you Know
>>>>> its bull for a fact.
>>>>
>>>> Uh, you must be mistaken.
>>>> This fellow knows quite a bit about cars. And his auto insights have
>>>> shown the Toyota problem is really GM's fault, along with Toyota owners
>>>> who have lied before Congress. I would go so far as to say he is the
>>>> world's foremost expert. And he has been kind enough to bring his
>>>> Toyota insights to the tech group to educate all of us who do
>>>> mechanical work on cars. I can't tell tell you how much we appreciate
>>>> that.
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't mention it. Any time you need any help, you just ask me. I'd be
>>> glad to help you out. You do know what a car is, right?
>>>
>>> Here, one more time for you:
>>>
>>>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>>>>>> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no
>>>>>> effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the
>>>>>> emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the car
>>>>>> into reverse and I couldn't."
>>
>> all under oath...
>>
>> i've been to hearings like this and seen people perjure themselves with
>> very little provocation or pay. it's not uncommon.
>
> I'm not sure she perjured herself, but I'd bet she should NOT be behind
> the wheel of a car. ANY car.
>
> If you can't handle a situation like that, you shouldn't be driving. As I
> said, she probably had it in "Sport" and didn't bring it back through the
> gate into Neutral. That's the only way the car wouldn't stop in neutral.
>
> And she must have gotten it stopped SOMEHOW, since she was there to tell
> the tale.

oh, she's perjuring herself. i've seen this stuff many times - there's
a certain theatrical circus show to these things - and a cadre of
individuals that will show up and say the most blatantly untrue bullshit
in terms that make the average vaudevillian look like an amateur.

one case i saw, some dude showed up in a medial gown, with i.v. drips
taped to his arm testifying about some doctor saving his life. thing
was, this individual was shown not to be a patient of that doctor, nor
could he have been at the facility concerned. it was just theater
designed for show and to help sway a decision. i guess there's
out-of-work actors that need money /real/ bad.


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