From: Elmo P. Shagnasty on
In article <9s2dnVsW_tGz1BTWnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net>,
jim beam <me(a)privacy.net> wrote:

> same with getting behind the wheel of a car dude - you are responsible
> for familiarizing yourself with the controls before pressing the "start"
> button.

day 1, to self: "I don't need an owner's manual, I know how to drive."

day 3, to Usenet: "Does anyone know how to set the radio station
presets on my shiny new 2010 model $25,000 toy?"

day 20, to Usenet: "The guy at the gas station told me I don't need 93
octane fuel, that I'm wasting my money! But I heard from a friend of
the guy who works at the Taco Bell near me that 93 octane will give my
Civic more power. Clearly, he's correct; I know it, I can feel it when
I drive. One time my wife put 87 in by mistake, and this baby was
hugely sluggish all around town until I drove around the outerbelt four
times to get rid of it so I could put Kwiki-Mart 93 back in."

day 45, to Usenet: "I took the car in for some warranty work, and Honda
said it needs its 3000 mile service; is $450 too much?"

day 93, to Usenet: "After Jiffy-Lube put engine oil into my auto trans
and then overfilled my crankcase by a quart and a half, those bastards
didn't reset my check engine light! Does anyone know how to reset that?
And can anyone confirm that my system takes 10W40 oil? 'Cuz that's what
they say they used."



(yes, I know I used "check engine light" and "Honda said"; that was
intentional...)
From: jim beam on
On 02/27/2010 10:31 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<9s2dnVsW_tGz1BTWnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net>,
> jim beam<me(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> same with getting behind the wheel of a car dude - you are responsible
>> for familiarizing yourself with the controls before pressing the "start"
>> button.
>
> day 1, to self: "I don't need an owner's manual, I know how to drive."
>
> day 3, to Usenet: "Does anyone know how to set the radio station
> presets on my shiny new 2010 model $25,000 toy?"
>
> day 20, to Usenet: "The guy at the gas station told me I don't need 93
> octane fuel, that I'm wasting my money! But I heard from a friend of
> the guy who works at the Taco Bell near me that 93 octane will give my
> Civic more power. Clearly, he's correct; I know it, I can feel it when
> I drive. One time my wife put 87 in by mistake, and this baby was
> hugely sluggish all around town until I drove around the outerbelt four
> times to get rid of it so I could put Kwiki-Mart 93 back in."
>
> day 45, to Usenet: "I took the car in for some warranty work, and Honda
> said it needs its 3000 mile service; is $450 too much?"
>
> day 93, to Usenet: "After Jiffy-Lube put engine oil into my auto trans
> and then overfilled my crankcase by a quart and a half, those bastards
> didn't reset my check engine light! Does anyone know how to reset that?
> And can anyone confirm that my system takes 10W40 oil? 'Cuz that's what
> they say they used."
>
>
>
> (yes, I know I used "check engine light" and "Honda said"; that was
> intentional...)

right on.


--
nomina rutrum rutrum
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:05:37 -0600, jim wrote:

>
>
> jim beam wrote:
>
>
>> so read the freakin' owners manual!
>
> How is that going to help someone with an out of control vehicle?

We're kind of assuming you familiarize yourself with a vehicle loaded with
technology that may be unfamiliar BEFORE you find yourself hurtling
through space at 125 MPH. How had she been turning the car off before that?

>
>
>> besides, unless this is absolutely the first time this person has ever
>> sat behind the wheel of this vehicle, and hasn't yet turned it off, they
>> will have LEARNED that the button needs to be pressed for THREE SECONDS
>> to switch off the vehicle. duh.
>
> that may well be easy to do when you are stopped in your driveway, but if
> you are careening down the highway at an unreasonably fast speed your
> perception of how long 3 seconds is may be a tad altered.
>
> you are obviously a loon if you are trying to defend this as good
> design.

A lot of companies have adopted it. I think Honda was one of the first
with the S2000.


From: jim on


"Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B" wrote:
>
> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:05:37 -0600, jim wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > jim beam wrote:
> >
> >
> >> so read the freakin' owners manual!
> >
> > How is that going to help someone with an out of control vehicle?
>
> We're kind of assuming you familiarize yourself with a vehicle loaded with
> technology that may be unfamiliar BEFORE you find yourself hurtling
> through space at 125 MPH. How had she been turning the car off before that?
>
> >
> >
> >> besides, unless this is absolutely the first time this person has ever
> >> sat behind the wheel of this vehicle, and hasn't yet turned it off, they
> >> will have LEARNED that the button needs to be pressed for THREE SECONDS
> >> to switch off the vehicle. duh.
> >
> > that may well be easy to do when you are stopped in your driveway, but if
> > you are careening down the highway at an unreasonably fast speed your
> > perception of how long 3 seconds is may be a tad altered.
> >
> > you are obviously a loon if you are trying to defend this as good
> > design.
>
> A lot of companies have adopted it. I think Honda was one of the first
> with the S2000.

I think it was a '46 chevy coupe that was the first car I saw where you
pushed a button on the dash to start the car. It was considered cutting
edge technology. A big step forward from stepping on a pedal on the
floor.
From: Clive on
In message <K62dnS4FQoTW4BTWnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d(a)bright.net>, jim
<sjedgingN0Sp(a)m.?.invalid> writes
> I think it was a '46 chevy coupe that was the first car I saw where you
>pushed a button on the dash to start the car. It was considered cutting
>edge technology. A big step forward from stepping on a pedal on the
>floor.
I can remember cars from between the wars having starter buttons as
standard, it was a long time later that there was another space (other
than off and on) that allowed you to crank the engine with the key.
--
Clive