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From: Jim Yanik on 5 Mar 2010 10:49
Neil Simpson <nsimpson(a)bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:ohj1p5leu7pssm017ih3ne1i2m3gn1u512(a)4ax.com:

> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:40:59 -0500, lil abner <@daisey.mae> wrote:

>>I would disconnect the spy boxes if I can find them.
>
> The memory circuits are incorporated into the air-bag module. There is
> a kid down the road who is a whiz at electronics that can disable the
> memory. It requires removing the module, tweaking the circuit, and
> replacing the module. Both of my currrent vehicles have been "spy
> proofed" by J. as well as my previous two.
>

The guy should post how-to instructions on some website,and post the link
here,and maybe on some other auto NGs.

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Jim Yanik
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at
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From: Brent on 5 Mar 2010 11:10
On 2010-03-05, Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Neil Simpson <nsimpson(a)bellsouth.net>
> said:
>
>>The memory circuits are incorporated into the air-bag module. There is
>>a kid down the road who is a whiz at electronics that can disable the
>>memory. It requires removing the module, tweaking the circuit, and
>>replacing the module. Both of my currrent vehicles have been "spy
>>proofed" by J. as well as my previous two.
>
> Such a modification could be as simple as cutting the trace to the
> "write enable" pin on the flash chip.
>
> What guarantee do you have that this modification does not affect the
> normal operation of your airbags?

A more interesting 'what if' would be that if something should occur and
those working for the government discover the modification they will
likely assume guilt.


From: Brent on 6 Mar 2010 00:36
On 2010-03-06, Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Brent
><tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> said:
>
>>On 2010-03-05, Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Neil Simpson <nsimpson(a)bellsouth.net>
>>> said:
>>>
>>>>The memory circuits are incorporated into the air-bag module. There is
>>>>a kid down the road who is a whiz at electronics that can disable the
>>>>memory.
>>>
>>> Such a modification could be as simple as cutting the trace to the
>>> "write enable" pin on the flash chip.
>>>
>>> What guarantee do you have that this modification does not affect the
>>> normal operation of your airbags?
>>
>>A more interesting 'what if' would be that if something should occur and
>>those working for the government discover the modification they will
>>likely assume guilt.
>
> Guilt of what?
>
> Assuming the police have access to an electronics expert skilled
> enough to discern a deliberate modification from a manufacturing
> defect, what does that prove? That the car accident you got into was
> deliberate and premeditated?

Are you that unfamiliar with how things work politically in this
culture? People think those who wish to have privacy must be doing
something wrong. The 'nothing to hide crowd' that cheers on the
government intrusions.

> Here's what will really happen: the cops will assume that the EDR was
> either damaged in the crash or defective, and without missing a beat
> will go about collecting evidence the old fashioned way: measuring
> skid marks and such.

The same law enforcement culture that believes if you keep your
transactions under 10 grand you must be hiding illegal activity?
No, they'll just making having a non-functional recorder a crime as
something to charge people with.


From: John David Galt on 6 Mar 2010 16:10
Jim Yanik wrote:
> The guy should post how-to instructions on some website,and post the link
> here,and maybe on some other auto NGs.

Not sure whether you mean how to disable the airbag or the data recorder,
but I would like to see lots of versions of both on NMA's web site.

If the feds think they can forbid it, let them try. I doubt they'll win.
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