From: JMS jmsmith2010 on
On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:06:46 -0700 (PDT), Doug <jagmad(a)riseup.net>
wrote:

>On 26 Mar, 09:03, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
>blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>
>> You claim to have been rammed in this video -
>>
>> ?
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg4WOmrwXPg
>>
>> The video is 26 seconds long. Could you specify exactly when you were
>> rammed?
>>
>When the video cuts off and causing my thumb to slip on the camera
>button. Try reading the text that accompanies the video.


I think that you may be mentally ill.

--

"wearing helmets can sometimes increase the chance of a cyclist being
involved in an accident."

That august body The CTC

(They've already had a slap for lying by the ASA)
From: Doug on
On 27 Mar, 16:41, "Mrcheerful" <nbk...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Doug wrote:
> > On 27 Mar, 10:58, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
> >> The Medway Handyman wrote:
> >>> Doug wrote:
> >>>> On 26 Mar, 09:03, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
> >>>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>> Doug wrote:
>
> >>>>> You claim to have been rammed in this video -
>
> >>>>> ?
>
> >>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg4WOmrwXPg
>
> >>>>> The video is 26 seconds long. Could you specify exactly when you
> >>>>> were rammed?
>
> >>>> When the video cuts off and causing my thumb to slip on the camera
> >>>> button. Try reading the text that accompanies the video.
>
> >>> How could you be rammed by the taxi you were filming?
>
> >> And why was he preventing the taxi's right to pass & repass?
>
> > I wasn't.
>
> > As the video shows the taxi had been corked as it was about to turn
> > right, with a queue of traffic behind it, by other riders to prevent
> > the remaining CM riders from being blocked. I was situated so as to
> > leave a gap for the taxi to exit right but it drive deliberately at my
> > back wheel instead and the driver then gave me the finger.
>
> > It is extremely difficult trying to video a ramming as it takes place,
> > partly because of its quick unexpectedness and partly to get a full
> > view of the point of contact as it occurs.
>
> must have been a very minor contact since there is no apparent movement of
> the bike
>
Can't you read? The camera went off at the instant of ramming also the
text accompanying the video explains. Duh!

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From: Tony Dragon on
Doug wrote:
> On 27 Mar, 12:40, webreader <websiterea...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Mar 27, 11:41 am, "Mrcheerful" <nbk...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>> Tony Dragon wrote:
>>>>> The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>>>> Doug wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26 Mar, 09:03, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
>>>>>>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Doug wrote:
>>>>>>>> You claim to have been rammed in this video -
>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg4WOmrwXPg
>>>>>>>> The video is 26 seconds long. Could you specify exactly when you
>>>>>>>> were rammed?
>>>>>>> When the video cuts off and causing my thumb to slip on the camera
>>>>>>> button. Try reading the text that accompanies the video.
>>>>>> How could you be rammed by the taxi you were filming?
>>>>> And why was he preventing the taxi's right to pass & repass?
>>>> And his right to earn a living.
>>> and if there was a passenger then I doubt that he would have seen the funny
>>> side of paying to be held up by cyclists
>> Doug, when are you going to comment on the acts of lawbreaking shown
>> in your videos that were pointed out by marie?
>>
> For the reason I have given previously. A few individual law breakers
> do not mean that CM as a while is lawbreaking and the same applies to
> any large group.
>
> --
> Critical Mass London
> http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
> "Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist"
>
>
>

As you must have filmed these offences, why have you not commented on
them, unlike other incidents you have claimed these are on your videos
for all to see.

--
Tony Dragon
From: Marie on
On Mar 27, 5:44 pm, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
> Doug wrote:
> > On 27 Mar, 12:40, webreader <websiterea...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On Mar 27, 11:41 am, "Mrcheerful" <nbk...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>> The Medway Handyman wrote:
> >>>> Tony Dragon wrote:
> >>>>> The Medway Handyman wrote:
> >>>>>> Doug wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 26 Mar, 09:03, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
> >>>>>>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Doug wrote:
> >>>>>>>> You claim to have been rammed in this video -
> >>>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg4WOmrwXPg
> >>>>>>>> The video is 26 seconds long. Could you specify exactly when you
> >>>>>>>> were rammed?
> >>>>>>> When the video cuts off and causing my thumb to slip on the camera
> >>>>>>> button. Try reading the text that accompanies the video.
> >>>>>> How could you be rammed by the taxi you were filming?
> >>>>> And why was he preventing the taxi's right to pass & repass?
> >>>> And his right to earn a living.
> >>> and if there was a passenger then I doubt that he would have seen the funny
> >>> side of paying to be held up by cyclists
> >> Doug, when are you going to comment on the acts of lawbreaking shown
> >> in your videos that were pointed out by marie?
>
> > For the reason I have given previously. A few individual law breakers
> > do not mean that CM as a while is lawbreaking and the same applies to
> > any large group.
>
> > --
> > Critical Mass London
> >http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
> > "Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist"
>
> As you must have filmed these offences, why have you not commented on
> them, unlike other incidents you have claimed these are on your videos
> for all to see.
>
> --
> Tony Dragon

A good question Tony, but to help Doug here are a few more incidents.


http://www.archive.org/details/cm31-10-08
1:20 pavement cycling
2:12 obstruction (if a driver did this it would be dangerous driving)
http://www.archive.org/details/londoncritmass
0:20 Not keeping to the left on a two way street & blocking oncoming
traffic
http://www.archive.org/details/cmjuly06
1:16 pavement cycling
3:09 obstruction


Marie
From: Mrcheerful on
Doug wrote:
> On 27 Mar, 16:41, "Mrcheerful" <nbk...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>> On 27 Mar, 10:58, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>> The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>>> Doug wrote:
>>>>>> On 26 Mar, 09:03, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
>>>>>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> Doug wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> You claim to have been rammed in this video -
>>
>>>>>>> ?
>>
>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg4WOmrwXPg
>>
>>>>>>> The video is 26 seconds long. Could you specify exactly when you
>>>>>>> were rammed?
>>
>>>>>> When the video cuts off and causing my thumb to slip on the
>>>>>> camera button. Try reading the text that accompanies the video.
>>
>>>>> How could you be rammed by the taxi you were filming?
>>
>>>> And why was he preventing the taxi's right to pass & repass?
>>
>>> I wasn't.
>>
>>> As the video shows the taxi had been corked as it was about to turn
>>> right, with a queue of traffic behind it, by other riders to prevent
>>> the remaining CM riders from being blocked. I was situated so as to
>>> leave a gap for the taxi to exit right but it drive deliberately at
>>> my back wheel instead and the driver then gave me the finger.
>>
>>> It is extremely difficult trying to video a ramming as it takes
>>> place, partly because of its quick unexpectedness and partly to get
>>> a full view of the point of contact as it occurs.
>>
>> must have been a very minor contact since there is no apparent
>> movement of the bike
>>
> Can't you read? The camera went off at the instant of ramming also the
> text accompanying the video explains. Duh!

You need to make the text clearer, duh!

I thought it was a video of you being rammed, the text does not make it
clear that you are filming someone else and then get rammed (not in shot at
all) I had assumed (as most people would )that the cycle in front of the
taxi is you and is the one that is rammed)
So there is no evidence on video at all that anyone was 'rammed'. Glad that
is cleared up.