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From: Ret. on 24 May 2010 11:21 Doug wrote: > No cyclist could do this much damage which clearly proves how much > more dangerous cars are. > > "Driver flees when car hits house near Norwich > > Car embedded in side of bungalow, near Norwich > > The bungalow was seriously damaged in the impact Perhaps he thought you lived there Doug... -- Kev
From: Ret. on 24 May 2010 11:24 Doug wrote: > On 24 May, 10:01, Derek Geldard <im...(a)miniac.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> On Sun, 23 May 2010 22:20:43 -0700 (PDT), Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> >> wrote: >> >>> No cyclist could do this much damage which clearly proves how much >>> more dangerous cars are. >> >> Yebbut, being a heavy powerful machine it achieves more, carries more >> people, goes further, and gets there quicker. >> >> I 'd have thought you'd have been bound to notice. >> > That may be so but a car is still much more dangerous than a bicycle. > The question is, should utility be placed before road safety and why > aren't cars better regulated in the interests of safety? Look Doug - a bicycle is much more dangerous than a pedestrian. Is that a good reason for banning bikes from the road? A running pedestrian is much more dangerous than a walking pedestrian if he runs into you. Should we ban running in public places? A walking pedestrian is much more dangerous than someone sitting in an armchair - perhaps we should ban everyone from leaving their homes? You really do come out with some nonsense. -- Kev
From: Doug on 24 May 2010 12:07 On 24 May, 15:04, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOOOO!!!...@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote: > "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > > news:da0d487f-7733-4ab3-9477-3cd404fdf73d(a)a20g2000vbc.googlegroups.com... > > > On 24 May, 10:01, Derek Geldard <im...(a)miniac.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >> On Sun, 23 May 2010 22:20:43 -0700 (PDT), Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> > >> wrote: > > >> >No cyclist could do this much damage which clearly proves how much > >> >more dangerous cars are. > > >> Yebbut, being a heavy powerful machine it achieves more, carries more > >> people, goes further, and gets there quicker. > > >> I 'd have thought you'd have been bound to notice. > > > That may be so but a car is still much more dangerous than a bicycle.. > > The question is, should utility be placed before road safety and why > > aren't cars better regulated in the interests of safety? > > He was driving illegally. > If he hadn't been ignoring the law this wouldn't have happened. > How do you propose to enforce speeding laws (or indeed any law at all) with > full compliance? > It would be impossible to achieve full compliance but much more could be done to reduce the danger from cars by concentrating on them instead of relatively harmless cyclists
From: Ret. on 24 May 2010 12:34 Doug wrote: > On 24 May, 15:04, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOOOO!!!...@drzoidberg.co.uk> > wrote: >> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >> >> news:da0d487f-7733-4ab3-9477-3cd404fdf73d(a)a20g2000vbc.googlegroups.com... >> >>> On 24 May, 10:01, Derek Geldard <im...(a)miniac.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>> On Sun, 23 May 2010 22:20:43 -0700 (PDT), Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> No cyclist could do this much damage which clearly proves how much >>>>> more dangerous cars are. >> >>>> Yebbut, being a heavy powerful machine it achieves more, carries >>>> more people, goes further, and gets there quicker. >> >>>> I 'd have thought you'd have been bound to notice. >> >>> That may be so but a car is still much more dangerous than a >>> bicycle. The question is, should utility be placed before road >>> safety and why aren't cars better regulated in the interests of >>> safety? >> >> He was driving illegally. >> If he hadn't been ignoring the law this wouldn't have happened. >> How do you propose to enforce speeding laws (or indeed any law at >> all) with full compliance? >> > It would be impossible to achieve full compliance but much more could > be done to reduce the danger from cars by concentrating on them > instead of relatively harmless cyclists And in what way are the authorities 'concentrating on harmless cyclists' Doug? I spent 30 years in the police. Apart from occasionally rollicking a cyclist for cycling on the pavement, or riding at night without lights, I never had any involvement with them. -- Kev
From: Mrcheerful on 24 May 2010 12:36
Ret. wrote: > Doug wrote: >> On 24 May, 15:04, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOOOO!!!...@drzoidberg.co.uk> >> wrote: >>> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >>> >>> news:da0d487f-7733-4ab3-9477-3cd404fdf73d(a)a20g2000vbc.googlegroups.com... >>> >>>> On 24 May, 10:01, Derek Geldard <im...(a)miniac.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 23 May 2010 22:20:43 -0700 (PDT), Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> >>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> No cyclist could do this much damage which clearly proves how >>>>>> much more dangerous cars are. >>> >>>>> Yebbut, being a heavy powerful machine it achieves more, carries >>>>> more people, goes further, and gets there quicker. >>> >>>>> I 'd have thought you'd have been bound to notice. >>> >>>> That may be so but a car is still much more dangerous than a >>>> bicycle. The question is, should utility be placed before road >>>> safety and why aren't cars better regulated in the interests of >>>> safety? >>> >>> He was driving illegally. >>> If he hadn't been ignoring the law this wouldn't have happened. >>> How do you propose to enforce speeding laws (or indeed any law at >>> all) with full compliance? >>> >> It would be impossible to achieve full compliance but much more could >> be done to reduce the danger from cars by concentrating on them >> instead of relatively harmless cyclists > > And in what way are the authorities 'concentrating on harmless > cyclists' Doug? I spent 30 years in the police. Apart from > occasionally rollicking a cyclist for cycling on the pavement, or > riding at night without lights, I never had any involvement with them. according to some of the dimwits here: cycles outnumber cars in the uk, and the police are continually harassing cyclists. They live in a world of their own. |