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"Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message
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> No cyclist could do this much damage which clearly proves how much
> more dangerous cars are.

So there was an accident. Your point?


From: GT on
"Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message
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> On 24 May, 10:01, Derek Geldard <im...(a)miniac.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 May 2010 22:20:43 -0700 (PDT), Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >No cyclist could do this much damage which clearly proves how much
>> >more dangerous cars are.
>>
>> Yebbut, being a heavy powerful machine it achieves more, carries more
>> people, goes further, and gets there quicker.
>>
>> I 'd have thought you'd have been bound to notice.
>>
> That may be so but a car is still much more dangerous than a bicycle.
> The question is, should utility be placed before road safety and why
> aren't cars better regulated in the interests of safety?

Doug - you made a typo - you said cars aren't safety regulated. Its bicycles
that aren't safety regulated. Cars have to comply with many legal safety
constraints - its called an MOT test.


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"Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message
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On 24 May, 15:04, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOOOO!!!...@drzoidberg.co.uk>
wrote:
> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message
>
> news:da0d487f-7733-4ab3-9477-3cd404fdf73d(a)a20g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On 24 May, 10:01, Derek Geldard <im...(a)miniac.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 23 May 2010 22:20:43 -0700 (PDT), Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >No cyclist could do this much damage which clearly proves how much
> >> >more dangerous cars are.
>
> >> Yebbut, being a heavy powerful machine it achieves more, carries more
> >> people, goes further, and gets there quicker.
>
> >> I 'd have thought you'd have been bound to notice.
>
> > That may be so but a car is still much more dangerous than a bicycle.
> > The question is, should utility be placed before road safety and why
> > aren't cars better regulated in the interests of safety?
>
> He was driving illegally.
> If he hadn't been ignoring the law this wouldn't have happened.
> How do you propose to enforce speeding laws (or indeed any law at all)
> with
> full compliance?
>
It would be impossible to achieve full compliance but much more could
be done to reduce the danger from cars by concentrating on them
instead of relatively harmless cyclists

Oh, you mean measures like compulsory safety tests. Annual inspections. Road
traffic police. Speed cameras. Speed bumps. Traffic lights. Legal
examinations for all drivers. Safety equipment as standard. Speed limits.
Prosecution for illegal use. etc etc. Yes perhaps we should introduce
measures like these!!


From: GT on
"Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message
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> On 24 May, 06:20, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> burbled:

Doug says,
>> "Driver flees when car hits house near Norwich

and Doug says,
> A man has been charged with drink driivng.

Doug, the only news you seem to post is anything involving cars - envy is a
terrible thing. Why don't you just get yourself acquianted with the road
laws in this country, sit a driving test and get yourself a car then you can
judge for yourself whether they are comfortable, useful devices, rather than
allowing yourself to be brainwashed by the media and small groups of tree
huggers and then perhaps you waste so much of your time trying to brainwash
others!


From: GT on
"Derek C" <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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On May 25, 7:46 am, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOOOO!!!...@drzoidberg.co.uk>
wrote:
> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message
>
> news:96bc7102-785b-4b10-8e7a-42515ed88e9f(a)a16g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On 24 May, 06:20, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote:
> >> No cyclist could do this much damage which clearly proves how much
> >> more dangerous cars are.
>
> >> "Driver flees when car hits house near Norwich
>
> >> Car embedded in side of bungalow, near Norwich
> <snip>
>
> > Update
>
> > A man has been charged with drink driivng.
>
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/8700583.stm
>
> So he was drunk and speeding when he crashed, and has been charged.
>
> He has broken the law and is being dealt with appropriately.
>
> What's the problem?
>
> --

I wish that a few more law breaking, red light jumping, footpath
riding, drunken, dangerous, speeding cyclists could be dealt with
appropriately by the law?

No No No, I won't have that. Cyclists don't speed - they "fail to make good
progress" and would fail any driving test on such a clause. For that reason,
every single cyclist *is* riding illegally on the public highways.