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From: thirty-six on 26 May 2010 05:48 On 26 May, 10:00, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > thirty-six failed to indent: > "The design of a bicycle is well known and respected, there is no need > for type approval, it is a relatively simple device of which problems > with brakes, suspension and steering rarely occur and are immediately > obvious to the rider. A single track machine does not require > complexity in steering, suspension and braking." > > GT: > Interesting, but lets turn that round talk about cars for a moment: > > The design of a car is well known and respected, yet cyclist still call > for type approval! It is a relatively simple device of which problems > with brakes, suspension and steering rarely occur and are immediately > obvious to the driver. A car does not require complex in steering, > suspension or braking. The brakes are complex, they require engine assistance on the whole and require balanced distribution using multiple systems. The pads or shoes are hidden from view so cannot be casually inspected. Suspension is also relatively complex for it must serve four wheels with at least two with considerable power and support braking loads of high magnitude. Steering is also relatively complex for it must be made upon two wheels and prevent tyre scrub inherent in four wheel and more vehicles and yet still provide good cornering at speed. There are plenty of design problems with four wheel vehicles, especially heavy ones. > > Oh dear, well that 'bikes are better than cars' point was a waste of time, > eh 36? > > > Do cyclists have to pass a test of competance? No. > > thirty-six failed to indent: > "the risk of injury is predominantly to the cyclist" > > So if the driver of car is the only person injured in an accident, then it > would be OK for him to have no driving license? history shows that not to be the case on the whole.
From: Brimstone on 26 May 2010 05:53 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message news:4bfce43d$0$8180$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > news:96bc7102-785b-4b10-8e7a-42515ed88e9f(a)a16g2000vbr.googlegroups.com... >> On 24 May, 06:20, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> burbled: > > Doug says, >>> "Driver flees when car hits house near Norwich > > and Doug says, >> A man has been charged with drink driivng. > > Doug, the only news you seem to post is anything involving cars - envy is > a terrible thing. Why don't you just get yourself acquianted with the road > laws in this country, sit a driving test and get yourself a car then you > can judge for yourself whether they are comfortable, useful devices, > rather than allowing yourself to be brainwashed by the media and small > groups of tree huggers and then perhaps you waste so much of your time > trying to brainwash others! Doug has already passed the UK driving test and therefore holds a licence.
From: GT on 26 May 2010 05:58 "thirty-six" <thirty-six(a)live.co.uk> wrote in message news:71eaf388-2cc5-40b4-93cb-86893c6761ba(a)a16g2000vbr.googlegroups.com... On 26 May, 10:00, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > thirty-six failed to indent: > "The design of a bicycle is well known and respected, there is no need > for type approval, it is a relatively simple device of which problems > with brakes, suspension and steering rarely occur and are immediately > obvious to the rider. A single track machine does not require > complexity in steering, suspension and braking." > > GT: > Interesting, but lets turn that round talk about cars for a moment: > > The design of a car is well known and respected, yet cyclist still call > for type approval! It is a relatively simple device of which problems > with brakes, suspension and steering rarely occur and are immediately > obvious to the driver. A car does not require complex in steering, > suspension or braking. thirty-six still didn't indent: "The brakes are complex" No they are not - they work the same way as a bike - pads press onto round parts and the friction causes the vehicle to stop. Power assistance for brakes is also not complex. thirty-six still didn't indent: "they require engine assistance on the whole and require balanced distribution using multiple systems" Yes, but this is not complex. thirty-six still didn't indent: "The pads or shoes are hidden from view so cannot be casually inspected." They are not hidden from view - they are on the wheels. Just bend down and have a look. thirty-six still didn't indent: "Suspension is also relatively complex" No it isn't - it is a large spring, or in some cases is it leaf-springs - the same technology used in Silver Cross prams! thirty-six still didn't indent: "Steering is also relatively complex" No it isn't - you turn the steering wheel and the big pole it is attached to turns a steering rack (like a toblerone) which moves left or right and turns the front wheels. its only a 'set of cogs' more complex than a bike. thirty-six still didn't indent: "There are plenty of design problems with four wheel vehicles, especially heavy ones." All of which have been overcome by design experts. I think you have very limited mechanical knowledge and so find these things complex. To a mechanic or even layman with basic mechanical knowledge, there is nothing complex about a car.
From: GT on 26 May 2010 06:23 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:tcudnVXS_IAucmHWnZ2dnUVZ8jmdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > > > "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message > news:4bfce43d$0$8180$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >> news:96bc7102-785b-4b10-8e7a-42515ed88e9f(a)a16g2000vbr.googlegroups.com... >>> On 24 May, 06:20, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> burbled: >> >> Doug says, >>>> "Driver flees when car hits house near Norwich >> >> and Doug says, >>> A man has been charged with drink driivng. >> >> Doug, the only news you seem to post is anything involving cars - envy is >> a terrible thing. Why don't you just get yourself acquianted with the >> road laws in this country, sit a driving test and get yourself a car then >> you can judge for yourself whether they are comfortable, useful devices, >> rather than allowing yourself to be brainwashed by the media and small >> groups of tree huggers and then perhaps you waste so much of your time >> trying to brainwash others! > > Doug has already passed the UK driving test and therefore holds a licence. Doug has a license to kill? So he is a self-confessed murdered now! Brilliant.
From: Adrian on 26 May 2010 06:26
"GT" <a(a)b.c> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >> Doug has already passed the UK driving test and therefore holds a >> licence. > Doug has a license to kill? So he is a self-confessed murdered now! > Brilliant. No, he's a self-confessed ex-murderer. He hasn't renewed his licence since it expired on his 70th birthday. |