From: JNugent on 4 Apr 2010 19:08 Doug wrote: > And the motorists here have the barefaced cheek to keep banging on > about cyclists on pavements! > > "Man dies as car hits Birmingham bus shelter > > A pedestrian was killed when a car crashed into a bus shelter in > Birmingham. > > Emergency services were called to the scene in Stratford Road, Hall > Green, on Friday morning. > > West Midlands Ambulance Service said a car appeared to have hit the > bus shelter and also hit another car. The dead man was found in the > shelter. > > A spokeswoman said the man was declared dead at the scene. Two women, > both motorists, were unhurt." > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/8600977.stm The last bit was a model of British understatement. It could as truthfully have said "Several million motorists, all of them women, were unhurt".
From: JNugent on 4 Apr 2010 19:09 Doug wrote: > On 4 Apr, 08:46, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >> Doug wrote: >>> And the motorists here have the barefaced cheek to keep banging on >>> about cyclists on pavements! >>> "Man dies as car hits Birmingham bus shelter >>> A pedestrian was killed when a car crashed into a bus shelter in >>> Birmingham. >>> Emergency services were called to the scene in Stratford Road, Hall >>> Green, on Friday morning. >>> West Midlands Ambulance Service said a car appeared to have hit the >>> bus shelter and also hit another car. The dead man was found in the >>> shelter. >>> A spokeswoman said the man was declared dead at the scene. Two women, >>> both motorists, were unhurt." >>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/8600977.stm >>> -- >>> UK Radical Campaigns >>> www.zing.icom43.net >>> A driving licence is a licence to kill. >> And in what way was this a deliberate action Doug, unlike footway cycling. >> >> Oh I must have missed your report about your Christmas bin collection, >> could you repost it. >> > On the exceedingly rare occasions when a cyclist kills on a pavement > that is not deliberate either. On the contrary, the cycling on the footway in such incidents is virtually always deliberate.
From: Doug on 5 Apr 2010 02:28 On 4 Apr, 12:05, Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > On Apr 4, 8:53 am, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote: > > > > > On 4 Apr, 08:46, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > > > Doug wrote: > > > > And the motorists here have the barefaced cheek to keep banging on > > > > about cyclists on pavements! > > > > > "Man dies as car hits Birmingham bus shelter > > > > > A pedestrian was killed when a car crashed into a bus shelter in > > > > Birmingham. > > > > > Emergency services were called to the scene in Stratford Road, Hall > > > > Green, on Friday morning. > > > > > West Midlands Ambulance Service said a car appeared to have hit the > > > > bus shelter and also hit another car. The dead man was found in the > > > > shelter. > > > > > A spokeswoman said the man was declared dead at the scene. Two women, > > > > both motorists, were unhurt." > > > > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/8600977.stm > > > > And in what way was this a deliberate action Doug, unlike footway cycling. > > > > Oh I must have missed your report about your Christmas bin collection, > > > could you repost it. > > > On the exceedingly rare occasions when a cyclist kills on a pavement > > that is not deliberate either. > > > -- > > Point of order. The motorist(s) left the road and mounted the pavement > after some sort of accident, so they were not deliberating driving on > the pavement. Many cyclists routinely and deliberately ride on the > pavement, often at quite high speed and in a manner that is risky to > vulnerable pedestrians. There is a difference! > Yes the important difference is that, unlike motorists, cyclists seldom kill people,on pavements. -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net A driving licence is a licence to kill.
From: Tony Dragon on 5 Apr 2010 04:04 Doug wrote: > On 4 Apr, 12:05, Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >> On Apr 4, 8:53 am, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On 4 Apr, 08:46, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >>>> Doug wrote: >>>>> And the motorists here have the barefaced cheek to keep banging on >>>>> about cyclists on pavements! >>>>> "Man dies as car hits Birmingham bus shelter >>>>> A pedestrian was killed when a car crashed into a bus shelter in >>>>> Birmingham. >>>>> Emergency services were called to the scene in Stratford Road, Hall >>>>> Green, on Friday morning. >>>>> West Midlands Ambulance Service said a car appeared to have hit the >>>>> bus shelter and also hit another car. The dead man was found in the >>>>> shelter. >>>>> A spokeswoman said the man was declared dead at the scene. Two women, >>>>> both motorists, were unhurt." >>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/8600977.stm >>>> And in what way was this a deliberate action Doug, unlike footway cycling. >>>> Oh I must have missed your report about your Christmas bin collection, >>>> could you repost it. >>> On the exceedingly rare occasions when a cyclist kills on a pavement >>> that is not deliberate either. >>> -- >> Point of order. The motorist(s) left the road and mounted the pavement >> after some sort of accident, so they were not deliberating driving on >> the pavement. Many cyclists routinely and deliberately ride on the >> pavement, often at quite high speed and in a manner that is risky to >> vulnerable pedestrians. There is a difference! >> > Yes the important difference is that, unlike motorists, cyclists > seldom kill people,on pavements. > > -- > UK Radical Campaigns > www.zing.icom43.net > A driving licence is a licence to kill. > So you are comparing the accidental action of one person, with the deliberate action of another group of people. What a quaint way of looking at the world. -- Tony Dragon
From: Doug on 6 Apr 2010 02:13
On 5 Apr, 09:04, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > Doug wrote: > > On 4 Apr, 12:05, Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > >> On Apr 4, 8:53 am, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote: > > >>> On 4 Apr, 08:46, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > >>>> Doug wrote: > >>>>> And the motorists here have the barefaced cheek to keep banging on > >>>>> about cyclists on pavements! > >>>>> "Man dies as car hits Birmingham bus shelter > >>>>> A pedestrian was killed when a car crashed into a bus shelter in > >>>>> Birmingham. > >>>>> Emergency services were called to the scene in Stratford Road, Hall > >>>>> Green, on Friday morning. > >>>>> West Midlands Ambulance Service said a car appeared to have hit the > >>>>> bus shelter and also hit another car. The dead man was found in the > >>>>> shelter. > >>>>> A spokeswoman said the man was declared dead at the scene. Two women, > >>>>> both motorists, were unhurt." > >>>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/8600977.stm > >>>> And in what way was this a deliberate action Doug, unlike footway cycling. > >>>> Oh I must have missed your report about your Christmas bin collection, > >>>> could you repost it. > >>> On the exceedingly rare occasions when a cyclist kills on a pavement > >>> that is not deliberate either. > >>> -- > >> Point of order. The motorist(s) left the road and mounted the pavement > >> after some sort of accident, so they were not deliberating driving on > >> the pavement. Many cyclists routinely and deliberately ride on the > >> pavement, often at quite high speed and in a manner that is risky to > >> vulnerable pedestrians. There is a difference! > > > Yes the important difference is that, unlike motorists, cyclists > > seldom kill people,on pavements. > > > So you are comparing the accidental action of one person, with the > deliberate action of another group of people. > > What a quaint way of looking at the world. > You are completely wrong yet again. In both cases when they kill it is not deliberate. The only difference being that cars are much more lethal and numerous and so represent a much bigger threat to pedestrians on pavements, which is a point you seem loathe to accept in your quest to try to exonerate such killers by diverting attention onto relatively harmless cyclists. -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net A driving licence is a licence to kill. |