From: Mike Barnes on
Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com>:
>Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding
>much like they were saying:
>
>>>>> How little attention does switching the wipers on require?
>
>>>> matching to the rain the way auto ones do would take quite a lot.
>
>>> Do you find it difficult not to stare, transfixed, at the wipers
>>> themselves as they go back and forth, back and forth, back and forth?
>
>> no, do you?
>
>I'm not the one who finds extending a digit distracting.

Oddly, it seems necessary to point out that it's not the extension of
the finger that's distracting, it's the decision of whether and when to
do it.

We all know that accidents, near misses, and simple poor driving often
occur due to a combination of factors rather than anything in isolation.
A small distraction can tip the balance.

I also like the fact that my radio retunes itself as I move round the
country. That it adjusts its volume according to my speed and the
ambient noise level. That my wipers give an extra "mop up" sweep a few
seconds after I wash the screen. That my the doors lock themselves when
I move off. That my gearbox selects an appropriate gear. That my
indicators cancel themselves after a turn.

I could (and used to) do all of these things myself, but if they happens
automatically, that's fewer things for me to think about, and more
attention left for what gong on outside the car.

--
Mike Barnes
From: Adrian on
Mike Barnes <mikebarnes(a)bluebottle.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

>>>>>> How little attention does switching the wipers on require?

>>>>> matching to the rain the way auto ones do would take quite a lot.

>>>> Do you find it difficult not to stare, transfixed, at the wipers
>>>> themselves as they go back and forth, back and forth, back and forth?

>>> no, do you?

>>I'm not the one who finds extending a digit distracting.

> Oddly, it seems necessary to point out that it's not the extension of
> the finger that's distracting, it's the decision of whether and when to
> do it.

You need to think about it?

At the most basic level, if the presence of water on the screen becomes
noticable, it's a reflex to do something with the wipers. If it isn't,
then it's not an issue.
From: Elder on
In article <e929efb6-ad0e-4c9a-8f16-
1d7f39e7be4c(a)k39g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, hairycatpuss(a)gmail.com
says...
> My car has a switch. I turn it on when I want the lights on, and off
> when I want the lights off. Simple really. I don't see what all the
> fuss about auto lights is..
>

I bet you still have filament lamps too don't you. Luddite.

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From: Albert T Cone on
Dave Plowman wrote:
> In article <K6WdnQNwC8RIta7RnZ2dnUVZ7rmdnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk>,
> Mortimer <me(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>> My old Pug 306 had auto wipers. If I left the switch in the auto
>> position, it wouldn't operate the wipers if the screen was previously
>> dry and then it began to rain. However once it began to rain and I
>> flicked the switch into Off and then Auto, it would operate the wipers
>> intermittently (or even continuously) at a suitable rate to keep the
>> screen clear without wiping when the screen was dry.
>
> They're all like that. Prevents inadvertent operation in say a car wash.
> You have to reset them each time you switch on.

Hmm. The ones in our old ('97) 306 were just left on auto pretty much
permanently - they certainly weren't reset on every trip. It could be a
more modern refinement, although I never had a problem with just turning
them off on the rare occasions I would use a car-wash.
From: Harry Bloomfield on
It happens that Mortimer formulated :
> My old Pug 306 had auto wipers. If I left the switch in the auto position, it
> wouldn't operate the wipers if the screen was previously dry and then it
> began to rain. However once it began to rain and I flicked the switch into
> Off and then Auto, it would operate the wipers intermittently (or even
> continuously) at a suitable rate to keep the screen clear without wiping when
> the screen was dry.

The Rover 75 works like that too. If you leave them on as you turn the
ignition off, you have to actively reselect them when you restart the
engine. Sensible really - in case the blades are frozen to the screen
when you next start the engine.

> I've never missed not having auto lights. I can see much less benefit than
> for auto wipers which adjust their intermittent rate to the amount of rain.

Quite true. The amount of rain coming down and the need for wipers can
vary from second to second taking up a lot of your attention. Lights
only need your attention very infrequently and nothing like so
urgently.

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Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk