From: Bagpuss on
On 6 July, 13:18, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:
> Auto wipers
> I have found the auto wipers great if you leave them off till you decide
> wiping is due, then let them get on with it.
>
> Auto lights
> I was driving along and hit bank of sea fog rolling in, I put the fogs on.
> Fine.
> Next time I glanced down I had no lights on. The light level was good, so
> all the lights went off automatically! So you must remember to switch to
> manual anytime "visibility" as opposed to "darkness" is the issue. IMHO
> this makes them dangerous in the hands of your average inattentive driver
> who will assume the two always coincide.

My car has a switch. I turn it on when I want the lights on, and off
when I want the lights off. Simple really. I don't see what all the
fuss about auto lights is..

Miaow!
From: bod on
Bagpuss wrote:
> On 6 July, 13:18, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> Auto wipers
>> I have found the auto wipers great if you leave them off till you decide
>> wiping is due, then let them get on with it.
>>
>> Auto lights
>> I was driving along and hit bank of sea fog rolling in, I put the fogs on.
>> Fine.
>> Next time I glanced down I had no lights on. The light level was good, so
>> all the lights went off automatically! So you must remember to switch to
>> manual anytime "visibility" as opposed to "darkness" is the issue. IMHO
>> this makes them dangerous in the hands of your average inattentive driver
>> who will assume the two always coincide.
>
> My car has a switch. I turn it on when I want the lights on, and off
> when I want the lights off. Simple really. I don't see what all the
> fuss about auto lights is..
>
> Miaow!
>
>

My word! How on earth do you cope with such an antiquated lighting
system? :)

Bod
From: Mortimer on
"Bagpuss" <hairycatpuss(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e929efb6-ad0e-4c9a-8f16-1d7f39e7be4c(a)k39g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On 6 July, 13:18, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> Auto wipers
>> I have found the auto wipers great if you leave them off till you decide
>> wiping is due, then let them get on with it.

My old Pug 306 had auto wipers. If I left the switch in the auto position,
it wouldn't operate the wipers if the screen was previously dry and then it
began to rain. However once it began to rain and I flicked the switch into
Off and then Auto, it would operate the wipers intermittently (or even
continuously) at a suitable rate to keep the screen clear without wiping
when the screen was dry.

Sadly my new Pug 308 doesn't have auto wipers, and sometimes the one-speed
intermittent setting is either too frequent (for very light rain) or not
frequent enough (for heavier rain where slow continuous leads to dry screen
and the dreaded stick-slip of the wipers).

>> Auto lights
>> I was driving along and hit bank of sea fog rolling in, I put the fogs
>> on.
>> Fine.
>> Next time I glanced down I had no lights on. The light level was good, so
>> all the lights went off automatically! So you must remember to switch to
>> manual anytime "visibility" as opposed to "darkness" is the issue. IMHO
>> this makes them dangerous in the hands of your average inattentive driver
>> who will assume the two always coincide.
>
> My car has a switch. I turn it on when I want the lights on, and off
> when I want the lights off. Simple really. I don't see what all the
> fuss about auto lights is..

I've never missed not having auto lights. I can see much less benefit than
for auto wipers which adjust their intermittent rate to the amount of rain.

From: Adrian on
"Mortimer" <me(a)privacy.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

>>> Auto wipers
>>> I have found the auto wipers great if you leave them off till you
>>> decide wiping is due, then let them get on with it.

> My old Pug 306 had auto wipers. If I left the switch in the auto
> position, it wouldn't operate the wipers if the screen was previously
> dry and then it began to rain. However once it began to rain and I
> flicked the switch into Off and then Auto, it would operate the wipers
> intermittently (or even continuously) at a suitable rate to keep the
> screen clear without wiping when the screen was dry.
>
> Sadly my new Pug 308 doesn't have auto wipers, and sometimes the
> one-speed intermittent setting is either too frequent (for very light
> rain) or not frequent enough (for heavier rain where slow continuous
> leads to dry screen and the dreaded stick-slip of the wipers).

> I've never missed not having auto lights. I can see much less benefit
> than for auto wipers which adjust their intermittent rate to the amount
> of rain.

I've never missed not having auto-wipers, but I've got variable speed
intermittent, which does make a huge difference.

Even so, several of the fleet don't even have fixed-interval
intermittent. <shrug> It's not the end of the world. You just install a
simulation of the delay relay in wetware.
From: Adrian on
Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

>> I've never missed not having auto-wipers, but I've got variable speed
>> intermittent, which does make a huge difference.

> they instantly up the rate as you hit lorry spray then slow again, very
> good IMHO.

Mmm.

Excuse me for not being impressed, but I can do that too - just a bit
earlier...