From: SnoMan on 27 Mar 2007 15:59 On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:25:31 -0500, clifto <clifto(a)gmail.com> wrote: >samstone(a)aol.com wrote: >> The change industry are the ones suggesting the 3000 mile >> interval. Through commercials they've gained believers. > >I was taught 3,000 mile intervals long before there were companies that >specialized in oil changes. > >I have a friend who changes his oil every 2,000 miles. I would rather >buy one of his used cars than any new car, for quality reasons (though >the price wouldn't hurt either). The longer intervals are mostly to promote sales in that newer models require less maintainance. Oil still breaks down and gets dirty and new engines run hotter and are harder on the oil in them. You can change oil very little in a car and maybe get 100K out of it but it is what happens beyond 100K that shows how well your engine was maintained. I change every 3K or so, always have and always will and I have yet to wear out a engine or have to flush either and I have never had stuck ring problems either in over 35 years of driving. I have also run several vehicles well past 200K too and I have a few that are now 18 years old and older and still run great and use no oil between changes (I do not have to add). You can change your oil at 5 or 7K if you want but not me and you are better off to change it often with cheaper oil than try to stretch it out with high dollar oil because they both still get dirty. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com
From: jim on 27 Mar 2007 17:02 Ed White wrote: > > Conversely, in who's interest is it to have you change your oil > frequently? Even vehicle manufacturer's get profits from oil changes > when OE filters and oil are used. So you believe if the car manufacturer's were as smart as you are they could be making more money selling oil changes than they do selling cars. Ha Ha Ha good one. >If anything, vehicle manufacturers > have the incentive to increase profits by specifying more frequent oil > changes. Ha Ha Ha another good one. > Very few new car buyers drive cars to the point that the > engine fails. That is Correct. So the recommendations make sense for those new car buyers who don't plan on keeping the car more than a few years. But maybe some new car buyers would be keeping there cars a little longer if they weren't getting those little tell tell tale signs that the engine is little more worn than they would like it to be. >I have yet to sell or trade a vehicle with a bad engine. Oh so you are one of those who got rid of it it before it went bad? -jim ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----
From: John Henderson on 27 Mar 2007 16:26 jim wrote: > Hey I've got a 50 gallon drum of "time and temperature > enhanced" oil. That should be worth a lot a money to someone > like yourself who knows it's value. How much would you be > willing to offer? Swap you for my drum of used oil? Problem with mine is that it's past the enhanced stage, having done 7,000 miles on average. John
From: Oso on 27 Mar 2007 17:30 "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)removemindspring.com> wrote in message news:46091844$1(a)kcnews01... > Most major automakers agree: The adage that you should change your car's > oil every 3,000 miles is outdated, and even 5,000 miles may be too often, > The Associated Press reported. > > Ford Motor Co. became the latest manufacturer to extend its oil life > guidelines, making public that it is raising the recommended oil change > interval from 5,000 miles to 7,500 miles on its newly redesigned 2007 > models and all subsequent redesigned or new models, AP said. > > The company, like many other manufacturers, said last week that higher oil > quality standards and new engine designs were responsible for the change, > which affects vehicles driven under normal conditions. L&MT Give me a surprise. Do you know what the oil change period is in the UK for a modern Nissan? Try annually or 10,000 miles, whichever comes first. -- Fidei Coticula Crux
From: Eeyore on 27 Mar 2007 18:14
"C. E. White" wrote: > Most major automakers agree: The adage that you should change your > car's oil every 3,000 miles is outdated, and even 5,000 miles may be > too often, The Associated Press reported. > > Ford Motor Co. became the latest manufacturer to extend its oil life > guidelines, making public that it is raising the recommended oil > change interval from 5,000 miles to 7,500 miles on its newly > redesigned 2007 models and all subsequent redesigned or new models, AP > said. > > The company, like many other manufacturers, said last week that higher > oil quality standards and new engine designs were responsible for the > change, which affects vehicles driven under normal conditions. L&MT The norm in Europe has been 9,000 to 12,000 miles for decades. Graham |