Automakers Lengthen Oil Change Intervals
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From: jwardl on 28 Mar 2007 21:57 How can oil be changed TOO often? Personally, think I'll stick with 3/3k. "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)removemindspring.com> wrote in message news:46091844$1(a)kcnews01... > Most major automakers agree: The adage that you should change your car's > oil every 3,000 miles is outdated, and even 5,000 miles may be too often, > The Associated Press reported. > > Ford Motor Co. became the latest manufacturer to extend its oil life > guidelines, making public that it is raising the recommended oil change > interval from 5,000 miles to 7,500 miles on its newly redesigned 2007 > models and all subsequent redesigned or new models, AP said. > > The company, like many other manufacturers, said last week that higher oil > quality standards and new engine designs were responsible for the change, > which affects vehicles driven under normal conditions. L&MT >
From: clare at on 28 Mar 2007 22:00 On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:05:37 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote: >In article <460ad725$0$27206$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, SMS wrote: >> Steve Barker wrote: >>> I'm a regular guy (retired) with 4 vehicles that always have, and always >>> will, get 3k oil changes on straight 30 weight oil. > >> This will increase the engine wear at start-up, though if you're in a >> hot climate it won't be too bad. Just make sure that it's a detergent >> SAE 30, not non-detergent, as both are available. > >There are some engines with small oil passages where it's probably not a >good idea at all. > Not an engine built that can't run straight 30 if the temps don't drop below something like 55-60F. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: Steve Barker on 28 Mar 2007 22:06 I run it year 'round in Kansas. Still no problems. There's just not that much difference, except the 30w lubes better hot. -- Steve Barker YOU should be the one controlling YOUR car. Check out: www.lightsout.org <clare at snyder.on.ca> wrote in message news:pb7m031m123p78ksrcc3qf7svpki52rqor(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:05:37 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com > (Brent P) wrote: > >>In article <460ad725$0$27206$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, SMS wrote: >>> Steve Barker wrote: >>>> I'm a regular guy (retired) with 4 vehicles that always have, and >>>> always >>>> will, get 3k oil changes on straight 30 weight oil. >> >>> This will increase the engine wear at start-up, though if you're in a >>> hot climate it won't be too bad. Just make sure that it's a detergent >>> SAE 30, not non-detergent, as both are available. >> >>There are some engines with small oil passages where it's probably not a >>good idea at all. >> > Not an engine built that can't run straight 30 if the temps don't drop > below something like 55-60F. > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >
From: Steve Barker on 28 Mar 2007 22:08 Look at your Chevy's manual and see what it says to do if the auto reminder is reset by accident. My GMC's manual say in this event to change the oil at 3,000 miles. Imagine that. Straight from the Big One. -- Steve Barker YOU should be the one controlling YOUR car. Check out: www.lightsout.org "Willy" <willyk(a)prodigy.net> wrote in message news:7eCOh.1568$H_5.1565(a)newssvr23.news.prodigy.net... > > "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message > news:gIydnXE3lpmSXJfbnZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d(a)ptd.net... >> In my former fleet serviced business we did oil analyses. On average >> vehicles could run between 6,000 to 8,000 miles before there was even a >> hint of oil deterioration and that was ten or more years ago. After a >> number of years we stopped wasting time and money doing test and simply >> changed oil between 6k and 7K and the vehicles were run up to 300K or >> more in most cases >> >> Get smart and save money, WBMA 5K changes are a no brainer. >> mike >> >> >> "SnoMan" <admin(a)snoman.com> wrote in message >> news:h53l035imksfd74polftjdc92bhl1dkscn(a)4ax.com... >>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:04:36 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>Nope. Go look at the engine oil analysis done after 3K and 5K. No >>>>difference in viscosity >>> >>> >>> I seriously doubt that because I have seen otherwise. >>> ----------------- >>> TheSnoMan.com >> >> > > And to take it a step further, many new cars have oil monitoring system > that tell you when it's time to change. Both of my Chevy's have this > feature. My 04 Impala, which I typically change between 5-7500, at the > 7500 mark usually says I have 40-50% oil life remaining. Admittedly I do > 90% highway mileage at 65-75mph so there's no short trips and sitting in > congestion, but I'm of the opinion GM isn't going to offer a 100k warranty > on the powertrain and then allow the oil change mechanism to be too > generous. If anything, it would probably suggest changing sooner than is > really needed. Although I don't do it, I'm confident I could drive 15K > before my car "change oil soon" light would turn on. > > On my new Equinox, which is driven by the wife - all low speed congested > driving, at 2400 miles she's already showing only 40% oil life remaining. > What a difference your "type of driving" makes in oil change frequency!!! > (Plus it's a new engine). > > On the Nissan's I stick with the owners manual or less, the manual > suggesting 7500 and I generall change at 6K. At 118K she still purrs like > a kitten. > > Willy > > Willy > > >
From: Steve Barker on 28 Mar 2007 22:09
I didn't learn the 3,000 mile thing from anyone but the old man and good common sense. And I drink water from the tap. -- Steve Barker YOU should be the one controlling YOUR car. Check out: www.lightsout.org "Willy" <willyk(a)prodigy.net> wrote in message news:5eCOh.1566$H_5.377(a)newssvr23.news.prodigy.net... > > "Steve Barker" <ichasetrains(a)some.yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1didnaxM2aPiL5TbnZ2dnUVZ_v2knZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> The question is will it make 300K? the answer is no. Not with the oil >> abuse you've been giving it. >> >> -- >> Steve Barker >> >> YOU should be the one >> controlling YOUR car. >> Check out: >> www.lightsout.org >> >> >> >> >> "Willy" <willyk(a)prodigy.net> wrote in message >> news:SdiOh.3391$u03.152(a)newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... >> I have put well over >>> 100K on my last 2 vehicles, changed the oil at 7500 miles, and never had >>> a mechanical issue of any kind. >>>> Willy >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > Steve my friend, the marketing department has done their job, and you're a > believer. > > It kind of reminds me of the US current fascination with drinking bottled > water. > > Now remember 10 years ago we drank it from the kitchen sink at nanocents > per glass, and we were all believed that the 'GOOD DRINKS' were those from > a bottle, cola's in particular. Then the cola companies bought up the > bottled water companies, and they've convinced us that we NEED more water, > and they charge us MORE for a bottle of water than they do for a bottle of > cola, which coincidentally, in many cases is made from the SAME filtered > water they sell you in as drinking water for an even higher price. And > they tell you DRINK MORE WATER IT'S GOOD FOR YOU. > > And most of us have a keen awareness that, based on the marketing hype, we > all don't drink enough water. > > It's much the same with oil changes. We all believe, based on the old > days, frequent oil changes are necessary, and much like drinking water, > changing your oil more often certainly doesn't hurt anything... it's just > that, if you're already drinking a few glasses of water a day (or changing > your oil as suggested in your owners manual)... do you really NEED to > change it more often? > > I drive fast and hard, around 50K a year, and have logged over a million > miles, and I've NEVER EVER HAD A MECHANICAL FAILURE of any type on any of > my autos. Nothing, notta, zip... and I know several people that > purchased my vehicles after I ran them into the 150K range (which is when > I typically trade or sell) and all of the vehicles which I had knowledge > of continued to perform beautifully into the 250K range, and those owners > sold or traded them at that time. > > So change every day if that give you peace of mind, and drink more water > too!!!! > > lol > > Willy > |