From: Andy on
On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 21:51:55 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com>
wrote:

>Andy wrote:
>
>> If you car is burning oil you should get that fixed. The main reason
>> for using a non-API certifided oil is because the API test is lacking.
>> After all its brought to you by the same people that say change your
>> oil at 3,000 miles.
>
>No one at the API says to change you oil every 3K miles. You're very
>confused. The API is not Jiffy Lube.

So when does the API say to change the oil?
From: Andy on
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 05:49:34 GMT, aarcuda69062
<nonelson(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>In article <46132eeb$0$27194$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>,
> SMS <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>
>> > If you car is burning oil you should get that fixed. The main reason
>> > for using a non-API certifided oil is because the API test is lacking.
>> > After all its brought to you by the same people that say change your
>> > oil at 3,000 miles.
>>
>> No one at the API says to change you oil every 3K miles. You're very
>> confused. The API is not Jiffy Lube.
>>
>> Don't tell us...you must sell Amsoil!
>
>ol' Andy has been pitching his scamsoil in these groups for a
>while now.

Just stating the facts, it amzing how many uneducated people there are
spouting iies. The data is clear on this, the tests show it. Why you
have such a hard time dealing with the truth is beyond me.
From: SMS on
Steve Austin wrote:

> As cheap as GM is, it wouldn't not use ZDDP if they could absolutly help
> it. The reduction of ZDDP in motor oil forced them to change to roller
> lifters. If you've got an old classic pre-cat car with flat tappets and
> want to use modern low ZDDP oil, go to your GM dealer and get some EOS.

With a non-cat car, some of the non-API certified synthetics used for
motorcycles, etc., would be acceptable, as they have the higher ZDDP levels.

The cat-equipped cars will have had modifications in design and
materials to compensate for the lower levels of ZDDP. Just as when
unleaded gasoline became the standard the engine manufacturers had to
make some design changes because of the loss of the lubrication provided
by the lead.
From: aarcuda69062 on
In article <tk67131deso2obeg3o2rtn9jtkvv97kio3(a)4ax.com>,
Andy <wisynoil(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> >ol' Andy has been pitching his scamsoil in these groups for a
> >while now.
>
> Just stating the facts, it amzing how many uneducated people there are
> spouting iies. The data is clear on this, the tests show it. Why you
> have such a hard time dealing with the truth is beyond me.

You've either been under a rock for the last 12 years or you're
just hopelessly obtuse.
ZDDP poisons catalytic converters, the amounts of ZDDP in motor
oil have to be reduced in order for manufacturers to meet EPA
warranty requirements on catalytic converters.
ZDDP makes mediocre motor oils perform as well as better quality
motor oils, so your statement that Scamsoil uses more of it
merely shows what a poor product it really is.
From: SMS on
aarcuda69062 wrote:

> ZDDP makes mediocre motor oils perform as well as better quality
> motor oils, so your statement that Scamsoil uses more of it
> merely shows what a poor product it really is.

To be fair, the non-API certified Amsoil products, with the high ZDDP
levels, are perfectly fine for vehicles without catalytic converters,
including snowmobiles, most motorcycles, etc. You just don't want to use
them in a vehicle with a catalytic converter.

If you must use Amsoil, use their API certified XL-7500 product in
vehicles with catalytic converters, though there is no benefit to it
versus other type III base stock synthetics such as Mobil 1 or Castrol
Syntec. All these products could not be classified as synthetics in
Europe, due to their base stock, but in the U.S. "synthetic" has become
a marketing term, rather than an accurate description of the actual product.