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From: Clive George on 11 Dec 2006 15:25 "Knight Of The Road" <russiatrucking(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:SoWdnau9q9RatODYnZ2dnUVZ8qKvnZ2d(a)bt.com... > "Clive George" <clive(a)xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote > > If you want to know more >> about my hobbies, there's plenty of info out there on the web - and >> there's nothing in there to offend any member of the family. > > Standing on the end of Platform 6 at Crewe station with a notebook and a > flask of Bovril? Given our relative frequency of posting to uk.railway, I suspect that's rather more likely to be you than me... clive
From: Brimstone on 11 Dec 2006 15:40 SteveH wrote: > Brimstone <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>> Some can, some can't. Even those who can often need someone with >>> more experience and skills to help the thought process. >> >> So they're poorly trained. > > Who do you propose trains the store managers, then? People competent in both the job and in training. They don't need to be another level of manager. > > Perhaps that would be one of the function of an area manager? - what > do you think? Why does it have to be yet another manager? > >>> The area manager also collates regional information tracking >>> localised trends and making recommendations to other departments in >>> order to make improvements etc. >> >> A computer can do that. > > A computer can only work with absolute facts and figures, it doesn't > take into account human induced issues. Quite, why can't the store manager do that? > >>> If all managers were 100% capable of running businesses without any >>> more senior intervention, they wouldn't be store managers. >> >> They would, but you'd be out of a job. > > You can say this about so many different jobs. Almost everyone needs a > manager to coach, train and manage their performance. No, they need someone who knows the job and can teach others. > If this wasn't > the case we'd all be capable of being CEO of IBM. Again you confuse intelligence, ability and education.
From: SteveH on 11 Dec 2006 16:14 Conor <conor.turton(a)gmail.com> wrote: > In article <1hq719z.bu40m31twbsykN%steve(a)italiancar.co.uk>, SteveH > says... > > > > If all managers were 100% capable of running businesses without any more > > senior intervention, they wouldn't be store managers. > > > Isn't it funny how in retail they call everyone managers who in any > other sector would be a foreman/chargehand. No, that's just in unskilled manual labour jobs. -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
From: SteveH on 11 Dec 2006 16:18 Conor <conor.turton(a)gmail.com> wrote: > In article <1hq736q.1vvx3kl1jijrN%steve(a)italiancar.co.uk>, SteveH > says... > > > Almost everyone needs a > > manager to coach, train and manage their performance. > > No they don't. I've suffered at the hands of some of the wonderful > decisions so called middle management have come out with. I'd go and see someone about your persecution complex, if I were you. -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
From: SteveH on 11 Dec 2006 16:19
Knight Of The Road <russiatrucking(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > I didn't tell you anything about how to drive a truck, just that most > > drivers were under-educated, ignorant apes. > > > > > > I expect those truck drivers thought the same about the sad loser goods > receiving clerk who wheeled the cages off of their trailers while earning a > third of what they did, Steve... Most truck drivers couldn't cope with the intellectual challenges of being the back door man in a large retail establishment. -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # |