Becoming a HGV driver (connor)
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From: Brimstone on 11 Dec 2006 17:50 Knight Of The Road wrote: > "NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote > >> I think you are right, they would die of boredom, mindnumbingly >> unending repetative tasks that once learnt pose absolutly no >> challange, but you must have started somewhere, how many of the 15 >> years were you a shelf stacker, and a backdoor man? From what I have >> gleaned you certainly didn't fast track from Uni, and if by some >> miracle you did were your results so bad that's the only job you >> could get? > > > The other pertinent question is this. > > There is only one current thread on this forum about driving an HGV. > It is entitled "Becoming a HGV driver (connor)" > > Why is this particular thread the one SteveH just can't keep away > from? It couldn't be........ Could it? Oh, surely not...... C'mon, you're having a joke.... I mean.... You can't be serious!!! Now I know you're pulling my pisser!! Sorry, I just don't believe it! Well, I suppose it's possible, as you say, he spends a lot of time slagging off lorry drivers. But, could he really be one? OK, I'm convinved!! SteveH is a frustrated lorry driver???????????????????
From: SteveH on 11 Dec 2006 17:52 NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote: > SteveH wrote: > > NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote: > > > > > SteveH wrote: > > > > > I'm not disclosing current employers, but I've worked for Iceland, > > Safeway, WHS, Dixons and the Burton Group in the past. > > > > I do have some standards, which mean I'd never consider a job with Lidl. > > -- > More to the point would they consider you? I see you have worked for > the bottom end of the market companies most of you working life. > Iceland? you worked for Iceland and won't consider LIDL. > Why not? You know very little of the market. Iceland may be positioned at the lower end of the customer base, but their managers are well regarded in the retail sector as they are more multi-skilled than junior managers in larger food retailers. In my first stint with them, they were *the* great success story in UK retail. WHS are a high street institution, and certainly not at the bottom end of the market. Burtons was something I did whilst at Uni and Safeway was fantastic until the takeover by some pigeon fancying, flat-cap wearing Northerner with a very narrow vision of the future of retail. Lidl, and the other European discounters work on an incredibly tight cost to sell ratio which gives managers very little autonomy and the worst working conditions / work:life balance in the sector. -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
From: SteveH on 11 Dec 2006 17:55 NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote: > SteveH wrote: > > NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I expect those truck drivers thought the same about the sad loser > > > > > goods receiving clerk who wheeled the cages off of their trailers > > > > > while earning a third of what they did, Steve... > > > > > > > > Most truck drivers couldn't cope with the intellectual challenges of > > > > being the back door man in a large retail establishment. > > > > > > I think you are right, they would die of boredom, mindnumbingly > > > unending repetative tasks that once learnt pose absolutly no challange, > > > but you must have started somewhere, how many of the 15 years were you > > > a shelf stacker, and a backdoor man? From what I have gleaned you > > > certainly didn't fast track from Uni, > > > > Which is where you'd be wrong. > > > > Nevermind, wrong again. You're making a habit of it. > > > > Maybe, if you post enough times in this thread, you may actually get > > something right. > > > So without disclosing your employer, just how did you arrive at your > present position after 15 years work? or is that a secret as well? Entered into full time work via a graduate trainee scheme, became a manager of a small turnover Iceland, moved on to Dixons as a manager to expand my knowledge, was assistant manager at Safeway (I was to become a regional non-foods specialist field manager until Morrisons stepped in and cancelled the non-foods project) before being head-hunted back to Iceland as a senior store manager / cluster group manager before trying something in the non-food sector. I was then called by an agency who knew my skills matched those of the company for which I work in a field management / area manager role. -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
From: NM on 11 Dec 2006 18:03 SteveH wrote: > NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote: > > > SteveH wrote: > > > NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote: > > > > > > > SteveH wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm not disclosing current employers, but I've worked for Iceland, > > > Safeway, WHS, Dixons and the Burton Group in the past. > > > > > > I do have some standards, which mean I'd never consider a job with Lidl. > > > -- > > More to the point would they consider you? I see you have worked for > > the bottom end of the market companies most of you working life. > > Iceland? you worked for Iceland and won't consider LIDL. > > Why not? > > You know very little of the market. Iceland may be positioned at the > lower end of the customer base, but their managers are well regarded in > the retail sector as they are more multi-skilled than junior managers in > larger food retailers. In my first stint with them, they were *the* > great success story in UK retail. That's not the same Iceland I know and love, I delivered there as a sub contractor, but then I know very little. what special multi skills do they have, ability to use a mobile phone perhaps? write in joined up script? > > WHS are a high street institution, and certainly not at the bottom end > of the market. Not known for their high rates of pay and employee benefits. > > Burtons was something I did whilst at Uni and Safeway was fantastic > until the takeover by some pigeon fancying, flat-cap wearing Northerner > with a very narrow vision of the future of retail. Your predjuices are on full display now. Which Uni were you at? and left with what? in what subject? > > Lidl, and the other European discounters work on an incredibly tight > cost to sell ratio which gives managers very little autonomy and the > worst working conditions / work:life balance in the sector. > Aah! I understand, too much like hard work, but I believe they demand responsibility and pay well, not of the right caliber? Thought so. You still havn't answered what you were doing for 15 years before you 'managed' if it's such a success story why hide it?
From: SteveH on 11 Dec 2006 18:11
NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote: > SteveH wrote: > > NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote: > > > > > SteveH wrote: > > > > NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > SteveH wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not disclosing current employers, but I've worked for Iceland, > > > > Safeway, WHS, Dixons and the Burton Group in the past. > > > > > > > > I do have some standards, which mean I'd never consider a job with Lidl. > > > > -- > > > More to the point would they consider you? I see you have worked for > > > the bottom end of the market companies most of you working life. > > > Iceland? you worked for Iceland and won't consider LIDL. > > > Why not? > > > > You know very little of the market. Iceland may be positioned at the > > lower end of the customer base, but their managers are well regarded in > > the retail sector as they are more multi-skilled than junior managers in > > larger food retailers. In my first stint with them, they were *the* > > great success story in UK retail. > > That's not the same Iceland I know and love, I delivered there as a sub > contractor, but then I know very little. what special multi skills do > they have, ability to use a mobile phone perhaps? write in joined up > script? As I say, you know very little of the industry. > > WHS are a high street institution, and certainly not at the bottom end > > of the market. > > Not known for their high rates of pay and employee benefits. These days, this is sadly true. Along with other 'premium' high street employers, they've been dragged back into the pack by minimum wage legislation. > > Burtons was something I did whilst at Uni and Safeway was fantastic > > until the takeover by some pigeon fancying, flat-cap wearing Northerner > > with a very narrow vision of the future of retail. > > Your predjuices are on full display now. Which Uni were you at? and > left with what? in what subject? I read Environmental Chemistry at Swansea. > > Lidl, and the other European discounters work on an incredibly tight > > cost to sell ratio which gives managers very little autonomy and the > > worst working conditions / work:life balance in the sector. > > > Aah! I understand, too much like hard work, but I believe they demand > responsibility and pay well, not of the right caliber? Thought so. The point is that they *don't* demand responsibility. You get a set of keys to open up at 6am and lock up at 8pm. You sweep the floor, stack the shelves, count the money and work the till. You don't manage a business, you firefight. > You still havn't answered what you were doing for 15 years before you > 'managed' if it's such a success story why hide it? The 15 years before I became a manager were almost entirely spent in full-time education. -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # |