From: SteveH on 12 Dec 2006 11:54 Conor <conor.turton(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > See, this is the thing. The role of Area Manager comprises lots of > > different functions - performance management and financial analysis > > being just two of those functions. > > Which the store manager can do. Please explain how a store manager can performance manage himself? Do you actually know what performance management is? > > They also provide an effective line > > of communication between the board and stores > > Like I said: A function of middle management is so the real management > doesn't have to talk to the staff. Indeed - 'cos the chairman of a large retail operation has time to go and see all his store managers individually and look round their stores. > > - by collating and sorting > > relevent information and deciding what should and shouldn't be an issue > > the board needs to act on. They also perform the function of > > implementing new ideas and initiatives. > > > Like I said: A function of middle management is to be a fall guy for > when it all goes wrong. See above. Board members get fired more often than the field management team. > > It's very narrow minded to think of an area manager only existing > > because store managers haven't been effectively trained to do their jobs > > properly. > > > Not really. Isn't it? Shows just how little you know about anything other than driving a truck. > > > Agreed there has to be the right of appeal if someone is disciplined, but > > > how often is the really needed. It can always be dealt with by an > > > independent arbitrator. > > > > That wouldn't work, because you'd be going outside the scope of the > > company at a very early stage of procedures. > > > Why? Where are the lines of appeal if it's gone to an external party at the first stage? -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
From: SteveH on 12 Dec 2006 11:56 Conor <conor.turton(a)gmail.com> wrote: > In article <1hq79rz.lenogyeidyo5N%steve(a)italiancar.co.uk>, SteveH > says... > > > Which brings us neatly around to another reason why store managers need > > a line manager - to comply with employment legislation regarding > > disciplinary and grievance action. > > > Why? I think you'll find they're quite capable. > > With all these things you claim store managers need a line manager for, > it sounds a lot like you're trying to justify your job. You've yet to > come up with something that a competent and experienced store manager > couldn't do. If a store manager was that perfect they'd be doing my job. Of course, some store managers are capable of carrying out my role, however, they're in the minority. -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
From: SteveH on 12 Dec 2006 11:59 NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote: > > Swansea University is one of the top Universities in the UK - being a > > college of the University of Wales. It is, and always has been a real > > university, not one of the pale imitations being touted around as > > universities these days. > > Used to be called a polytechnic, and your course was called day > release, for apprentices and similar in job training, you went there > part time whilst training at Iceland? am I wrong yet? Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Wales,_Swansea I'll ignore everything else from now on as you're obviously some kind of fuckwit incapable of even doing a quick search to verify the accuracy of your information. -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
From: SteveH on 12 Dec 2006 12:01 Conor <conor.turton(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I didn't tell you anything about how to drive a truck, just that most > > drivers were under-educated, ignorant apes. > > > Guess you never spoke to them then. The ones who were capable of stringing a sentence together without assistance often had a cuppa and a chat with me. They were in a minority, though. -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
From: NM on 12 Dec 2006 12:43
SteveH wrote: > NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote: > > > > Swansea University is one of the top Universities in the UK - being a > > > college of the University of Wales. It is, and always has been a real > > > university, not one of the pale imitations being touted around as > > > universities these days. > > > > Used to be called a polytechnic, and your course was called day > > release, for apprentices and similar in job training, you went there > > part time whilst training at Iceland? am I wrong yet? > > Here you go: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Wales,_Swansea > > I'll ignore everything else from now on as you're obviously some kind of > fuckwit incapable of even doing a quick search to verify the accuracy of > your information Yes I was wrong I was mixing it up with an ex-poly a mate of mine from Port Talbot went to years ago, however it's a pity you won't be able to read this apology as you claim you will be ignoring anything else I write. |