From: Chris Bartram on
On 22/06/10 14:48, T i m wrote:

> Apparently the ignition switch looks ok mechanically (not been forced)
> but the lower cowling was smashed off to get the electrical bit of the
> switch where they presumably hot wired it. Any idea how easy it might
> be to get replacement parts (breakers?) and what are the chances of
> damage being done to the steering column as they defeated the steering
> lock?
>
My only experience of this was with a Mk1 Golf, and we managed to get
the top bearing off the column, and remove the remains of the steering
lock, which was broken off and jammed in the column.
From: T i m on
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:48:42 +0100, Chris Bartram
<news(a)delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:

>On 22/06/10 14:48, T i m wrote:
>
>> Apparently the ignition switch looks ok mechanically (not been forced)
>> but the lower cowling was smashed off to get the electrical bit of the
>> switch where they presumably hot wired it. Any idea how easy it might
>> be to get replacement parts (breakers?) and what are the chances of
>> damage being done to the steering column as they defeated the steering
>> lock?
>>
>My only experience of this was with a Mk1 Golf, and we managed to get
>the top bearing off the column, and remove the remains of the steering
>lock, which was broken off and jammed in the column.


Hmm, so, assuming I do the same and remove any chance of the lock
'locking up', would the column itself likely to have suffered any
damage that would weaken it in general (assuming a replacement might
be difficult to get now, I've put a few calls out on Part finder sites
tonight).

I could always replace the steering lock function (that was obviously
not able to stand the actions of two youths) with a padlock and chain
that they would at least need to bring some tools to defeat (or
disclok as suggested previously etc). That and a 'hidden' immobiliser
switch ... and a 'Trunk Monkey' ;-)

Cheers, T i m






From: Adrian C on
On 23/06/2010 19:41, T i m wrote:

>
> The thing is I'm not sure if it's worth even trying to replace that
> function as it obviously defeatable without any tools? Same with the
> lock itself, bypassed when they smashed the switch off the back. I was
> thinking of just a decent padlock and chain round the seat fame or
> pedals and wheel , a flashing LED and an actual hidden immobiliser
> switch.

On a trip a couple of years ago to some ropey parts of Brooklyn NY, I
was aware of many street garages offering an 'armored steering column
collar' fitting service, such is the hot wiring problems they have over
there.

e.g.
http://roadmonster.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/lokitt1.jpg

--
Adrian C
From: Chris Bartram on
On 22/06/10 23:20, T i m wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:48:42 +0100, Chris Bartram
> <news(a)delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
>
>> On 22/06/10 14:48, T i m wrote:
>>
>>> Apparently the ignition switch looks ok mechanically (not been forced)
>>> but the lower cowling was smashed off to get the electrical bit of the
>>> switch where they presumably hot wired it. Any idea how easy it might
>>> be to get replacement parts (breakers?) and what are the chances of
>>> damage being done to the steering column as they defeated the steering
>>> lock?
>>>
>> My only experience of this was with a Mk1 Golf, and we managed to get
>> the top bearing off the column, and remove the remains of the steering
>> lock, which was broken off and jammed in the column.
>
>
> Hmm, so, assuming I do the same and remove any chance of the lock
> 'locking up', would the column itself likely to have suffered any
> damage that would weaken it in general (assuming a replacement might
> be difficult to get now, I've put a few calls out on Part finder sites
> tonight).
>
> I could always replace the steering lock function (that was obviously
> not able to stand the actions of two youths) with a padlock and chain
> that they would at least need to bring some tools to defeat (or
> disclok as suggested previously etc). That and a 'hidden' immobiliser
> switch ... and a 'Trunk Monkey' ;-)
>
> Cheers, T i m
>
>
>
>
>
>
This wasn't seriously damaged. IIRC the Lock housing got broke, and the
lock 'bolt' sheared and jammed. We got a new housing, fished out the
bolt and all was well. In those days there were lots of Golf Is in breakers.

As you say, a krooklok type device or a hefty chain is perfectly
adequate, unless you really can get the Trunk Monkey.
From: Chris Bartram on
On 22/06/10 16:18, T i m wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:44:22 +0100, "Duncan Wood"
> <nntpnews(a)dmx512.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> That era Astra, you snap the steering lock by pulling really hard on the
>> wheel,
>
> Oh do you now? ;-)
>
That was how they did the Golf 1 I mentioned too. It's harder if the
lock is engaged- if it isn't you can get enough speed on to shear it as
it engages.