From: T i m on
Hi All,

Just a bit of vehicle crime feedback and some thoughts / questions if
I may.

So, we get a call from the Police at 9 this morning saying our (93,
1.4) Belmont had been recovered and was in a local Ontime pound. I
asked if it was drivable and she said it had been involved in a RTC.
We popped round and had a look at it (couldn't touch it as SOCO were
on their way) and apart from some scratches on the roof when one of
the bicycles had been put (the thieves turned up on cycles) there
wasn't any obvious external damage. It had been recovered from the
side of the road, not pulled from a ditch or a shop window. ;-)

Later we got a call from a nice SOCO lady who went through the items
they found in the car and they were all ours, including the wind up
torch and the 20 quid my wife keeps in the glove compartment for
emergency fuel money! Nothing taken or added.

We have also had a letter from the insurance Co informing us that the
cover was now stopped. I called them and reminded them that I only
notified them of the thief and that I wasn't pursuing a claim at that
time. They said they would reinstate the cover (I've asked for that in
writing). I have also been given their ok to check the vehicle out to
see if I want to repair it myself (or my mate to check it out in the
garage) therefore no claim, removing the claim strike from the record
(I have NCP)) or have it written off if a repair is too complicated /
expensive. Alternatively we could claim, let them write it off and
then buy it back?

Apparently the ignition switch looks ok mechanically (not been forced)
but the lower cowling was smashed off to get the electrical bit of the
switch where they presumably hot wired it. Any idea how easy it might
be to get replacement parts (breakers?) and what are the chances of
damage being done to the steering column as they defeated the steering
lock?

Cheers, T i m
From: Adrian on
T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

> I have also been given their ok to check the vehicle out to
> see if I want to repair it myself (or my mate to check it out in the
> garage) therefore no claim, removing the claim strike from the record (I
> have NCP)) or have it written off if a repair is too complicated /
> expensive. Alternatively we could claim, let them write it off and then
> buy it back?

That's the least sensible option, by the time your excess, NCB and claim
history have been balanced against the likely payout.

TBH, given the thoroughly laughable likely payout, I'd be inclined to
ignore the whole mess unless the recovery/storage costs are high.

> Apparently the ignition switch looks ok mechanically (not been forced)
> but the lower cowling was smashed off to get the electrical bit of the
> switch where they presumably hot wired it. Any idea how easy it might be
> to get replacement parts (breakers?)

Almost certainly easy - after all, it's exactly the same as an Astra of
the era, and very likely identical to other Vauxhalls.

> and what are the chances of damage
> being done to the steering column as they defeated the steering lock?

Strong. Whether it's damage that risks causing the lock to click on
randomly in the future (not fun) or will just stop it doing anything
(<shrug>) is another question.
From: Mrcheerful on
Adrian wrote:
> T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying:
>
>> I have also been given their ok to check the vehicle out to
>> see if I want to repair it myself (or my mate to check it out in the
>> garage) therefore no claim, removing the claim strike from the
>> record (I have NCP)) or have it written off if a repair is too
>> complicated / expensive. Alternatively we could claim, let them
>> write it off and then buy it back?
>
> That's the least sensible option, by the time your excess, NCB and
> claim history have been balanced against the likely payout.
>
> TBH, given the thoroughly laughable likely payout, I'd be inclined to
> ignore the whole mess unless the recovery/storage costs are high.
>
>> Apparently the ignition switch looks ok mechanically (not been
>> forced) but the lower cowling was smashed off to get the electrical
>> bit of the switch where they presumably hot wired it. Any idea how
>> easy it might be to get replacement parts (breakers?)
>
> Almost certainly easy - after all, it's exactly the same as an Astra
> of the era, and very likely identical to other Vauxhalls.
>
>> and what are the chances of damage
>> being done to the steering column as they defeated the steering lock?
>
> Strong. Whether it's damage that risks causing the lock to click on
> randomly in the future (not fun) or will just stop it doing anything
> (<shrug>) is another question.

the lock will have been broken by brute force, there is every likelihood it
will need a column complete (cheap from a breakers in any case.)

Remember you will have at least 150 to pay to collect it plus the repairs,
and of course it is still vulnerable and they know where it is any time they
fancy another drive round. If you get it back on the road then I strongly
suggest you get and use a Disclok, they are expensive, heavy and awkward to
use, but are impossible for the average scrote to remove with hands and a
screwdriver . Since using them on my vehicles I have not had one stolen or
broken into.


From: Duncan Wood on
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:48:21 +0100, T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Just a bit of vehicle crime feedback and some thoughts / questions if
> I may.
>
> So, we get a call from the Police at 9 this morning saying our (93,
> 1.4) Belmont had been recovered and was in a local Ontime pound. I
> asked if it was drivable and she said it had been involved in a RTC.
> We popped round and had a look at it (couldn't touch it as SOCO were
> on their way) and apart from some scratches on the roof when one of
> the bicycles had been put (the thieves turned up on cycles) there
> wasn't any obvious external damage. It had been recovered from the
> side of the road, not pulled from a ditch or a shop window. ;-)
>
> Later we got a call from a nice SOCO lady who went through the items
> they found in the car and they were all ours, including the wind up
> torch and the 20 quid my wife keeps in the glove compartment for
> emergency fuel money! Nothing taken or added.
>
> We have also had a letter from the insurance Co informing us that the
> cover was now stopped. I called them and reminded them that I only
> notified them of the thief and that I wasn't pursuing a claim at that
> time. They said they would reinstate the cover (I've asked for that in
> writing). I have also been given their ok to check the vehicle out to
> see if I want to repair it myself (or my mate to check it out in the
> garage) therefore no claim, removing the claim strike from the record
> (I have NCP)) or have it written off if a repair is too complicated /
> expensive. Alternatively we could claim, let them write it off and
> then buy it back?
>
> Apparently the ignition switch looks ok mechanically (not been forced)

That era Astra, you snap the steering lock by pulling really hard on the
wheel, drill the old bolts out & have a look, but a scrap steering
column's probably cheapest


> but the lower cowling was smashed off to get the electrical bit of the
> switch where they presumably hot wired it. Any idea how easy it might
> be to get replacement parts (breakers?) and what are the chances of
> damage being done to the steering column as they defeated the steering
> lock?
>
> Cheers, T i m
From: T i m on
On 22 Jun 2010 13:54:14 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
>saying:
>
>> I have also been given their ok to check the vehicle out to
>> see if I want to repair it myself (or my mate to check it out in the
>> garage) therefore no claim, removing the claim strike from the record (I
>> have NCP)) or have it written off if a repair is too complicated /
>> expensive. Alternatively we could claim, let them write it off and then
>> buy it back?
>
>That's the least sensible option, by the time your excess, NCB and claim
>history have been balanced against the likely payout.

Understood. FWIW The NCB is protected and the last time it was written
off (Sept 2008) we were paid out �275. That covered the inspection,
MOT, replacement parts and left a drink for my mate for letting me use
his garage. ;-)
>
>TBH, given the thoroughly laughable likely payout, I'd be inclined to
>ignore the whole mess unless the recovery/storage costs are high.

�150 apparently.
>
>> Apparently the ignition switch looks ok mechanically (not been forced)
>> but the lower cowling was smashed off to get the electrical bit of the
>> switch where they presumably hot wired it. Any idea how easy it might be
>> to get replacement parts (breakers?)
>
>Almost certainly easy - after all, it's exactly the same as an Astra of
>the era, and very likely identical to other Vauxhalls.

Ok, not had to repair any ever on a Vauxhall so have no history on
them as such. Funnily mate with garage has a later Astra in there at
the moment with an ignition switch fault and is having trouble
sourcing a replacement.
>
>> and what are the chances of damage
>> being done to the steering column as they defeated the steering lock?
>
>Strong.

Damn.

>Whether it's damage that risks causing the lock to click on
>randomly in the future (not fun) or will just stop it doing anything
>(<shrug>) is another question.

I'd probably replace the assembly if I could or remove the steering
lock parts and use an alternative solution. I have removed shear head
bolts before so that's not an issue as such but that maybe a
replacement column complete might be a tidier solution?

The thing is that whilst she's happy driving the (daughters) Ka it
isn't as handy as a 4 door saloon with a big boot and we won't get one
in such a known / good condition for �275?

Cheers, T i m