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From: Andrew Tompkins on 24 Mar 2010 13:34
hancock4(a)bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> On Mar 23, 10:42 am, Andrew Tompkins <andy...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>> I wonder if a camera to catch Left Lane Blockers is also being considered.
>> How do you measure it? How do you record it in such a way that an
>> enforcement officer can sign off on it?
>
> Don't know, but they seem to manage just fine giving out lots of
> tickets for improperly being in the left lane. Many roads have exits
> or left turn lanes on the left and one needs to move over well in
> advance due to heavy traffic. But do so too soon and you get a ticket.

By camera enforcement? Where do they do this?

--Andy
From: Alexander Rogge on 25 Mar 2010 15:05
Andrew Tompkins wrote:
> Alexander Rogge wrote:
>>
>> I wonder if a camera to catch Left Lane Blockers is also being
>> considered.
>
> How do you measure it?

If there is no car ahead of the LLB, and the LLB is not going
significantly-faster than the traffic to its right, that driver is very
likely an LLB. It's like a regular speed-camera, except that the
software considers the speed of traffic in the adjacent lane.
Additionally, the software could consider the speed of approaching
traffic in the passing lane. If the traffic behind the suspected LLB is
moving faster, and the software detects that the suspected LLB has not
yielded and has resulted in slower traffic speeds in the passing lane,
that driver could be identified as an LLB.
From: Andrew Tompkins on 25 Mar 2010 22:17
Alexander Rogge wrote:
> Andrew Tompkins wrote:
>> Alexander Rogge wrote:
>>>
>>> I wonder if a camera to catch Left Lane Blockers is also being
>>> considered.
>>
>> How do you measure it?
>
> If there is no car ahead of the LLB, and the LLB is not going
> significantly-faster than the traffic to its right, that driver is very
> likely an LLB. It's like a regular speed-camera, except that the
> software considers the speed of traffic in the adjacent lane.
> Additionally, the software could consider the speed of approaching
> traffic in the passing lane. If the traffic behind the suspected LLB is
> moving faster, and the software detects that the suspected LLB has not
> yielded and has resulted in slower traffic speeds in the passing lane,
> that driver could be identified as an LLB.

The 'likely' and 'could' language are non-starters. Subjectivity
written all over it. In this type of application, the control system
either fires the camera or it doesn't. No himming and hawing.

The only time that a system of this type can sense that a trailing
driver wants to travel faster than a leading one and is being blocked
from doing so is when the trailing driver is being forced to slow down
because of the leading driver (and not for some other reason) and the
leading driver has a place to move right. This happens over a
relatively short section of the freeway, which means that the
emplacement has to be placed in the right place to catch it, or the
entire length of the hwy has to be wired for this. Neither would pay
for the system itself, the first not catching enough instances and the
second being too costly itself even catching all the instances on the hwy.

--Andy
From: Chilly8 on 3 Apr 2010 14:07

"Alexander Rogge" <a_rogge(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:80rac5F6rjU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> lil abner wrote:
>> http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/laworder/story/BF062EFE327DD8E1862576EB005BFBCA?OpenDocument
>
>> Signs advising where the cameras will be go up March 29. For the first
>> two weeks, drivers will get warnings in the mail. After that, they will
>> get $100 fines. Just like red light cameras, drivers will not have points
>> assessed to their driving record.
>
> So, said another way, if everybody pays money into the road system like
> they should be doing, the road will be speed-derestricted? Of course,
> because if the cost of driving in the Americas were increased through
> petrol taxes and licensing expenses, there would be less need to use
> underposted speed-limits to increase revenue for the governments.
>
> I wonder if a camera to catch Left Lane Blockers is also being considered.


Just do what I do, drive with your sun visor in the right position
so the camera cannot get a clear shot of your face. They have
to be able to identify the driver, and all you have to do is
have your sunvisor in just the right position so the camera
cannot get a clear picture of you.

From: Tom Groom on 7 Apr 2010 03:33
In article <hp804g$2hu$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
"Chilly8" <chilly8(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> Just do what I do,

Post about figure skating events you've never been to from the comfort
of your basement in Sacramento, CA? No thanks.
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