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From: Brimstone on 26 Jan 2010 05:22 "JMS" <jmsmith2010(a)live.co.uk > wrote in message news:4qbsl51elk55p4da4evtudtub75b4qqkal(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:24:18 +0000, Tom Crispin > <kije.remove(a)this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> wrote: > >>On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:06:11 +0000, JNugent >><JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: >> >>>Tom Crispin wrote: >>> >>>> JNugent <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> The older tunnel wasn't really built for traffic at 30mph. The bends >>>>> are/were >>>>> necessary because of the geology of the ground and because of the >>>>> places >>>>> where the terminations were needed. >>> >>>> No. The bends are there to prevent horses bolting for the light, and >>>> because of the geography of the Greenwich Penninsular. >>> >>>That's an additional - if far-fetched - reason you are proffering. It >>>does >>>not militate against the two I gave (indeed, you support one of them - >>>probably both of them). >>> >>>> It is ironic that riding a horse through the tunnel is prohibited. >>> >>>Not really. The "horse bolting the light" story is highly likely to be an >>>urban myth (unless you can find an authoritative source for it), and >>>there >>>would be nothing to stop the horses "bolting for the light" on the not >>>inconsiderable relatively stretches between the outer bends and the >>>portals. >> >>Horses bolting for the light may be an urban myth, but engineers >>designing bends in tunnels in the hope of preventing horses bolting >>for the light is not. > > > I assume that you have a source for this - other than Wikipedia? > > As others have pointed out elsewhere - why was this technique not used > in other tunnels from Roman times onwards. > > What about canal tunnels? > > No - I am sorry - just an Urban Myth. > The fact that very few canal tunnels had/have towpaths the lack of "bolting for the light" coupled with the inertia of the load in the few that did/do.
From: Brimstone on 26 Jan 2010 05:32 "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:jFq7n.31695$Ym4.1259(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... > mileburner wrote: >> NM wrote: >>> On 25 Jan, 21:29, "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> You be telling us next that "drivers" pay "Road Tax" [sic] >>>> >>>> The only "Road Tax" [sic] I pay is as the registered keeper of >>>> vehicles. >>>> >>>> You'll be telling us soon that "cyclists" dont pay it. >>>> >>>> If that's the case, I should get a refund huh? >>> >>> I'd like that a rebate from something I've never paid, sounds >>> attractive. >> >> You miss the point. >> >> Drivers do not pay the Medway Road Tax. >> >> Cyclists do not pay the Medway Road Tax. >> >> The Medway Road Tax only exists in his mind. > > Still can't answer the argument then? Cyclists are freeloading sponging > scum and you know it. > > Made yourself look a prat again. > You seem to be the master of that particular activity.
From: NM on 26 Jan 2010 06:08 On 26 Jan, 10:32, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in messagenews:jFq7n.31695$Ym4.1259(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... > > > mileburner wrote: > >> NM wrote: > >>> On 25 Jan, 21:29, "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > > >>>> You be telling us next that "drivers" pay "Road Tax" [sic] > > >>>> The only "Road Tax" [sic] I pay is as the registered keeper of > >>>> vehicles. > > >>>> You'll be telling us soon that "cyclists" dont pay it. > > >>>> If that's the case, I should get a refund huh? > > >>> I'd like that a rebate from something I've never paid, sounds > >>> attractive. > > >> You miss the point. > > >> Drivers do not pay the Medway Road Tax. > > >> Cyclists do not pay the Medway Road Tax. > > >> The Medway Road Tax only exists in his mind. > > > Still can't answer the argument then? Cyclists are freeloading sponging > > scum and you know it. > > > Made yourself look a prat again. > > You seem to be the master of that particular activity. Are resigning your commission? :-) I don't agree with a lot of what MH says but IMO he has taken heaps of unwarranted abuse from the legions of dickheads and idiots on this newsgroup and fought back well, keeping me entertained whilst he did it.
From: Brimstone on 26 Jan 2010 09:52 "NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in message news:f10d44b3-7105-4c62-9a89-6433e77b58d2(a)a6g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > On 26 Jan, 10:32, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >> messagenews:jFq7n.31695$Ym4.1259(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >> >> > mileburner wrote: >> >> NM wrote: >> >>> On 25 Jan, 21:29, "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >> >> >>>> You be telling us next that "drivers" pay "Road Tax" [sic] >> >> >>>> The only "Road Tax" [sic] I pay is as the registered keeper of >> >>>> vehicles. >> >> >>>> You'll be telling us soon that "cyclists" dont pay it. >> >> >>>> If that's the case, I should get a refund huh? >> >> >>> I'd like that a rebate from something I've never paid, sounds >> >>> attractive. >> >> >> You miss the point. >> >> >> Drivers do not pay the Medway Road Tax. >> >> >> Cyclists do not pay the Medway Road Tax. >> >> >> The Medway Road Tax only exists in his mind. >> >> > Still can't answer the argument then? Cyclists are freeloading >> > sponging >> > scum and you know it. >> >> > Made yourself look a prat again. >> >> You seem to be the master of that particular activity. > > Are resigning your commission? :-) I thought you were the ex-matelote? > I don't agree with a lot of what MH says but IMO he has taken heaps of > unwarranted abuse from the legions of dickheads and idiots on this > newsgroup and fought back well, keeping me entertained whilst he did > it. Lots of people give and take abuse, it's part of the joy that is UseNet.
From: mileburner on 26 Jan 2010 10:11
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:osmdnep4zrUlnMLWnZ2dnUVZ8ludnZ2d(a)bt.com... > Lots of people give and take abuse, it's part of the joy that is UseNet. I don't have a problem with that, however when all there is, is abuse, unfounded abuse and abuse based on prejudice there becomes little point to it. Medway may well have taken his fair share of stick-beatings, but it is not as if he wasn't begging for it. |