From: John_H on
Clocky wrote:
>John_H wrote:
>> captain anchovy wrote:
>>>
>>> wonder what would happen if our armed forces boarded a ship in
>>> International waters on the basis that it was carrying illegal
>>> immigrants bound for our fair shores and, after the crew put up a
>>> fight shot some of them ?????
>>
>> It's an entirely different situation. No state of war exists to
>> justify any military blockade... as it does between Hamas and Israel.
>
>The Turks and Israel are not at war, nor was it a warship or an act of war.

What have the Turks got to do with it?

The Mavi Marmara is a privately owned ship flying the Comoros flag.
Comoros is nowhere near Turkey.

It's irrelevant in any case. The blockade applies to all seaborne
supplies bound for Gaza, and hence Hamas, whether by battleship or
canoe.

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John H
From: captain anchovy on
On 6/06/2010 11:14 AM, John_H wrote:
> captain anchovy wrote:
>>
>> wonder what would happen if our armed forces boarded a ship in
>> International waters on the basis that it was carrying illegal
>> immigrants bound for our fair shores and, after the crew put up a fight
>> shot some of them ?????
>
> It's an entirely different situation. No state of war exists to
> justify any military blockade... as it does between Hamas and Israel.
>
> There's also a technicality for Israel to fall back on, in that the
> Arab states have never rescinded their declaration of war after losing
> their first stoush with Israel back in 1949.
>
how can there be a 'state of war" Israel is a country. hamas is an
organisation. this is like saying a state of war exists between
australia and the RSL. Hamas is not an "Arab state"


A.
From: Toby on
On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:14:13 +1000, captain anchovy wrote:

> On 6/06/2010 11:14 AM, John_H wrote:
>> captain anchovy wrote:
>>>
>>> wonder what would happen if our armed forces boarded a ship in
>>> International waters on the basis that it was carrying illegal
>>> immigrants bound for our fair shores and, after the crew put up a fight
>>> shot some of them ?????
>>
>> It's an entirely different situation. No state of war exists to
>> justify any military blockade... as it does between Hamas and Israel.
>>
>> There's also a technicality for Israel to fall back on, in that the
>> Arab states have never rescinded their declaration of war after losing
>> their first stoush with Israel back in 1949.
>>
> how can there be a 'state of war" Israel is a country. hamas is an
> organisation. this is like saying a state of war exists between
> australia and the RSL. Hamas is not an "Arab state"
>
>
> A.

But,they are a political party these days - and have been duly elected to
do what they do. We'll just ignore who started 'em up for the moment, shall
we?

--
Toby

The solution could not possibly be more obvious.
We can no longer afford the rich.
T. Hussein Mississippifarian - July 2008
From: Noddy on

"John_H" <john4721(a)inbox.com> wrote in message
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> There's also a technicality for Israel to fall back on, in that the
> Arab states have never rescinded their declaration of war after losing
> their first stoush with Israel back in 1949.

And they probably never will either.

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Regards,
Noddy.


From: Noddy on

"D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
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> According to someone I know in the military if a boat load of illegal
> immigrants was "accidentally" sunk by our Navy some time soon it wouldn't
> be the first time.
> Of course that could be complete bullshit and it most likely is but you
> never know.

I'd be testing that theory out with a few well placed torpedoes.

I mean, if you get lucky and there are no survivors, who's going to know? :)

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Noddy.