From: Noddy on 6 Jun 2010 06:41
"Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message
> Clearly the forging international passports of friendly nations,
> murdering diplomats overseas, building walls, bulldozing homes with
> people in them and stealing land wasn't quite enough...
No, but then the Jews are as extreme as any other radical group of imbeciles
in my opinion, and I don't have too much time for any of them. If they want
to all kill each other then it's fine with me. The West should just sit back
and watch the fun, then go in and grab the oil once the dust settles.
From: Noddy on 6 Jun 2010 07:58
"D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
> At least I was going to give them a chance to behave but at the same time
> hoping they don't:-)
From: Clocky on 6 Jun 2010 11:54
> "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
>> According to someone I know in the military if a boat load of illegal
>> immigrants was "accidentally" sunk by our Navy some time soon it
>> wouldn't be the first time.
>> Of course that could be complete bullshit and it most likely is but
>> you never know.
> I'd be testing that theory out with a few well placed torpedoes.
> I mean, if you get lucky and there are no survivors, who's going to
> know? :)
If no-one survives, how is that going to discourage more of them from
Best to turn a few of them back with no exceptions and point to Indonesia as
the nearest port of call... they'll soon stop coming.
From: John_H on 6 Jun 2010 17:25
captain anchovy wrote:
>On 6/06/2010 11:14 AM, John_H wrote:
>> captain anchovy wrote:
>>> wonder what would happen if our armed forces boarded a ship in
>>> International waters on the basis that it was carrying illegal
>>> immigrants bound for our fair shores and, after the crew put up a fight
>>> shot some of them ?????
>> It's an entirely different situation. No state of war exists to
>> justify any military blockade... as it does between Hamas and Israel.
> how can there be a 'state of war" Israel is a country. hamas is an
>organisation. this is like saying a state of war exists between
>australia and the RSL. Hamas is not an "Arab state"
Neither are the Taliban, with whom our lot are currently at war. Do
business with them and a drone filled with C4 is likely to drop by.
Hamas are the government in Gaza. If they weren't there'd be no
From: Jason James on 6 Jun 2010 18:04
"Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message
> Deevo wrote:
>> "John_H" <john4721(a)inbox.com> wrote in message
>>> Why can't large ships be disabled by fouling their props with trawled
>>> If they could no doubt the Israeli navy would, but if it works for
>>> fishing trawlers (it does on "The Trawlermen") why not large ships?
>> Israelis would rather make an example of people they oppose. There
>> are two sides to the various conflicts in the Middle East and
>> unfortunately it would appear the Israelis are the less reasonable of
>> the two at this time.
> Gods chosen people are acting more and more like the terrorists they claim
> to be victims of.
> I'm not buying their BS anymore myself.
Its an intensely difficult situation. The Israelis are gaining no friends
with their propensity to use heavy-handed responses. Historically, their
claim to Judea or Israel goes like this>>
November 2nd, 1917.
Dear Lord Rothschild,
I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's
Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist
aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet:
"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of
a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to
facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that
nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of
existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political
status enjoyed by Jews in any other country".
I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of
the Zionist Federation.
Arthur James Balfour
By the end of the First World War, Great Britain had the Mandate for
Palestine. The issuance of the Balfour Declaration greatly increased the
immigration of Jews to Palestine. In 1947, Great Britain decided to turn its
Mandate over to the **United Nations**, which, in the same year, adopted
Resolution 181, partitioning the land into **two states**, one Arab and one
Jewish. **Israel agreed to the partition, but Arab countries and Palestinian
Arabs did not**, resulting in the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, the first in a
series of wars fought between Israel and the Arab world. It would take
thirty years for an Arab country to recognize Israel.
There are many examples of anti-semitica down thru the ages,..not theleast
of which has been resentment over New testament records of Christ's
sacrifice. It has led to the the clear delineation of the great 3
religions>>Christianity, Judaism and Islam,..but to keep things in a recent
time-context, nothing goes close to the murder of 2/3 of Europe's Jewry by
the Third Reich. It was this event, that gave Zionism the great force it has
today. "Never again" is the catch-cry by modern Jews.
An irony is that Zionism is a Nationalist politick, not totally unlike