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From: Scotty on 4 Mar 2010 06:07 " Scotty" <scoter1(a)warmmail.com> wrote in message news:4b47f2a0$0$6090$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... : Well the 3VZE has finally spat the dummy. Gave it a run on Tuesday after topping up the water. Was : missing a bit when cold but soon came good. Went to move it last night but it just wouldnt turn : over. Checked the battery, all good, wound it by hand okay in one direction but not the other, : pulled out the plugs and #6 wet with coolant, cranked with plugs out and out came a bucket load of : coolant from the bore. No water in oil thankfully (Still clean and not milky). : : Ran it breifly with #6 removed and it ran fine, put the plug back in and it ran well. : : : Question is............ Called a local garage this morning and he has estimated $2k to change the : head gaskets!!!! Thats with no head work! : : Anyone had experience in this job? Id like to know how far of fthe mark he is. Im sure for $1500 I : could get a decent 2nd hand donk from the wreckers but how long that will last is anyones guess. : These are notorious for doing head gaskets but I was told it was usually between #2. : : Its not in perfect condition so spending $7k on a 1UZE Swap is out of the question. : : Any suggestions? : : : Scotty : : : Well, decided that its going to be cheaper to have someone take a look at the heads to determine what the damage is. Took the heads to a local place and for $65 they crack test each head. Cost $457.00 (A bit steep?) more and got a face grind, valve stem replacment, new welsh plugs, chemical clean, valve vaccuum test, valve clearance check. Both heads given cleanbill of health. So, figured what the hell, if I can pull the heads off I can put them back on eh! (Famous last words for many a project I'm sure) Called Repco, $594 for a gasket set, Toyota $704, EBay $123 delivery to the door. Took the Ebay option ;o) Found that the power steering pump was leaking so got that rekit- Cost $295 (Again a bit steep I thought) Needs a new Rad, $490 including fitment of a thermo switch for electric fan. Had the extractors sitting ready in the garage from a while ago (Glad I didnt pay to have them fit before I pulled the heads off! What and absolute prick of a job that would be!!) So, Im up to refitting the banana bunchon top and slip hitting two small sensors on the back of the manifold. No biggie eh, theres bound to be plenty around. Nope, no wreckers have one, Toyota want $298.00 for the two. (No typo). Can only get one from auto sparky wholesalers so hit Ebay again and $19 later, should be on its way from the States. With a bit of luck it will go back together okay. Total spend to date is not far under $1500 all up including the exhaust manifolds. Yet to do is buy a fan (VS C'Dore one should fit okay) and have the exhaust made up under the car. Hoping to get away under $2k all up. If Ive not stuffed up then I think its worth the project. Proof will be if it starts I suppose once its all up and running.
From: Ron on 4 Mar 2010 16:50 " Scotty" <scoter1(a)warmmail.com> wrote in news:4b8f948e$0$1779$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au: > > " Scotty" <scoter1(a)warmmail.com> wrote in message > news:4b47f2a0$0$6090$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... >: Well the 3VZE has finally spat the dummy. Gave it a run on Tuesday >: after topping up the water. > Was >: missing a bit when cold but soon came good. Went to move it last >: night but it just wouldnt turn over. Checked the battery, all good, >: wound it by hand okay in one direction but not the other, pulled out >: the plugs and #6 wet with coolant, cranked with plugs out and out >: came a bucket load of coolant from the bore. No water in oil >: thankfully (Still clean and not milky). >: >: Ran it breifly with #6 removed and it ran fine, put the plug back in >: and it ran well. >: >: >: Question is............ Called a local garage this morning and he has >: estimated $2k to change the head gaskets!!!! Thats with no head work! >: >: Anyone had experience in this job? Id like to know how far of fthe >: mark he is. Im sure for $1500 > I >: could get a decent 2nd hand donk from the wreckers but how long that >: will last is anyones guess. These are notorious for doing head >: gaskets but I was told it was usually between #2. >: >: Its not in perfect condition so spending $7k on a 1UZE Swap is out of >: the question. >: >: Any suggestions? >: >: >: Scotty >: >: >: > > Well, decided that its going to be cheaper to have someone take a look > at the heads to determine what the damage is. > > Took the heads to a local place and for $65 they crack test each head. > Cost $457.00 (A bit steep?) more and got a face grind, valve stem > replacment, new welsh plugs, chemical clean, valve vaccuum test, valve > clearance check. Both heads given cleanbill of health. > > So, figured what the hell, if I can pull the heads off I can put them > back on eh! (Famous last words for many a project I'm sure) > > Called Repco, $594 for a gasket set, Toyota $704, EBay $123 delivery > to the door. Took the Ebay option ;o) > > Found that the power steering pump was leaking so got that rekit- Cost > $295 (Again a bit steep I thought) > Needs a new Rad, $490 including fitment of a thermo switch for > electric fan. Had the extractors sitting ready in the garage from a > while ago (Glad I didnt pay to have them fit before I pulled the heads > off! What and absolute prick of a job that would be!!) > > So, Im up to refitting the banana bunchon top and slip hitting two > small sensors on the back of the manifold. No biggie eh, theres bound > to be plenty around. Nope, no wreckers have one, Toyota want $298.00 > for the two. (No typo). Can only get one from auto sparky wholesalers > so hit Ebay again and $19 later, should be on its way from the States. > > With a bit of luck it will go back together okay. Total spend to date > is not far under $1500 all up including the exhaust manifolds. Yet to > do is buy a fan (VS C'Dore one should fit okay) and have the exhaust > made up under the car. Hoping to get away under $2k all up. If Ive not > stuffed up then I think its worth the project. > > > Proof will be if it starts I suppose once its all up and running. > > > I had no idea Jap parts were so expensive. They are worse than parts for the LR Discovery!! Good luck with it Scotty, I'm sure it will all work well :)
From: Scotty on 5 Mar 2010 03:23 "Ron" <xnews.com> wrote in message news:Xns9D324FB523A15NA(a)74.209.136.95... :" Scotty" <scoter1(a)warmmail.com> wrote in : news:4b8f948e$0$1779$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au: : : > : > " Scotty" <scoter1(a)warmmail.com> wrote in message : > news:4b47f2a0$0$6090$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... : >: Well the 3VZE has finally spat the dummy. Gave it a run on Tuesday : >: after topping up the water. : > Was : >: missing a bit when cold but soon came good. Went to move it last : >: night but it just wouldnt turn over. Checked the battery, all good, : >: wound it by hand okay in one direction but not the other, pulled out : >: the plugs and #6 wet with coolant, cranked with plugs out and out : >: came a bucket load of coolant from the bore. No water in oil : >: thankfully (Still clean and not milky). : >: : >: Ran it breifly with #6 removed and it ran fine, put the plug back in : >: and it ran well. : >: : >: : >: Question is............ Called a local garage this morning and he has : >: estimated $2k to change the head gaskets!!!! Thats with no head work! : >: : >: Anyone had experience in this job? Id like to know how far of fthe : >: mark he is. Im sure for $1500 : > I : >: could get a decent 2nd hand donk from the wreckers but how long that : >: will last is anyones guess. These are notorious for doing head : >: gaskets but I was told it was usually between #2. : >: : >: Its not in perfect condition so spending $7k on a 1UZE Swap is out of : >: the question. : >: : >: Any suggestions? : >: : >: : >: Scotty : >: : >: : >: : > : > Well, decided that its going to be cheaper to have someone take a look : > at the heads to determine what the damage is. : > : > Took the heads to a local place and for $65 they crack test each head. : > Cost $457.00 (A bit steep?) more and got a face grind, valve stem : > replacment, new welsh plugs, chemical clean, valve vaccuum test, valve : > clearance check. Both heads given cleanbill of health. : > : > So, figured what the hell, if I can pull the heads off I can put them : > back on eh! (Famous last words for many a project I'm sure) : > : > Called Repco, $594 for a gasket set, Toyota $704, EBay $123 delivery : > to the door. Took the Ebay option ;o) : > : > Found that the power steering pump was leaking so got that rekit- Cost : > $295 (Again a bit steep I thought) : > Needs a new Rad, $490 including fitment of a thermo switch for : > electric fan. Had the extractors sitting ready in the garage from a : > while ago (Glad I didnt pay to have them fit before I pulled the heads : > off! What and absolute prick of a job that would be!!) : > : > So, Im up to refitting the banana bunchon top and slip hitting two : > small sensors on the back of the manifold. No biggie eh, theres bound : > to be plenty around. Nope, no wreckers have one, Toyota want $298.00 : > for the two. (No typo). Can only get one from auto sparky wholesalers : > so hit Ebay again and $19 later, should be on its way from the States. : > : > With a bit of luck it will go back together okay. Total spend to date : > is not far under $1500 all up including the exhaust manifolds. Yet to : > do is buy a fan (VS C'Dore one should fit okay) and have the exhaust : > made up under the car. Hoping to get away under $2k all up. If Ive not : > stuffed up then I think its worth the project. : > : > : > Proof will be if it starts I suppose once its all up and running. : > : > : > : : I had no idea Jap parts were so expensive. : They are worse than parts for the LR Discovery!! : : Good luck with it Scotty, I'm sure it will all work well :) : I bloody hope so!! yeah parts for older cars are a bit dear. You would imagine that they would want to get rid om them eh rather than alienate customers with such high prices. I mean a gasket set for $700 thats fricken theft!!! Well with the extractors, decent exhaust, cold air intake mod and a clean up it should run a bit better than it did before eh.
From: Ron on 5 Mar 2010 16:57 " Scotty" <scoter1(a)warmmail.com> wrote in news:4b90bf79$0$16520$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au: > > "Ron" <xnews.com> wrote in message > news:Xns9D324FB523A15NA(a)74.209.136.95... >:" Scotty" <scoter1(a)warmmail.com> wrote in >: news:4b8f948e$0$1779$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au: >: >: > >: > " Scotty" <scoter1(a)warmmail.com> wrote in message >: > news:4b47f2a0$0$6090$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... >: >: Well the 3VZE has finally spat the dummy. Gave it a run on >: >: Tuesday after topping up the water. >: > Was >: >: missing a bit when cold but soon came good. Went to move it last >: >: night but it just wouldnt turn over. Checked the battery, all >: >: good, wound it by hand okay in one direction but not the other, >: >: pulled out the plugs and #6 wet with coolant, cranked with plugs >: >: out and out came a bucket load of coolant from the bore. No water >: >: in oil thankfully (Still clean and not milky). >: >: >: >: Ran it breifly with #6 removed and it ran fine, put the plug back >: >: in and it ran well. >: >: >: >: >: >: Question is............ Called a local garage this morning and he >: >: has estimated $2k to change the head gaskets!!!! Thats with no >: >: head work! >: >: >: >: Anyone had experience in this job? Id like to know how far of fthe >: >: mark he is. Im sure for $1500 >: > I >: >: could get a decent 2nd hand donk from the wreckers but how long >: >: that will last is anyones guess. These are notorious for doing >: >: head gaskets but I was told it was usually between #2. >: >: >: >: Its not in perfect condition so spending $7k on a 1UZE Swap is out >: >: of the question. >: >: >: >: Any suggestions? >: >: >: >: >: >: Scotty >: >: >: >: >: >: >: > >: > Well, decided that its going to be cheaper to have someone take a >: > look at the heads to determine what the damage is. >: > >: > Took the heads to a local place and for $65 they crack test each >: > head. >: > Cost $457.00 (A bit steep?) more and got a face grind, valve stem >: > replacment, new welsh plugs, chemical clean, valve vaccuum test, >: > valve clearance check. Both heads given cleanbill of health. >: > >: > So, figured what the hell, if I can pull the heads off I can put >: > them back on eh! (Famous last words for many a project I'm sure) >: > >: > Called Repco, $594 for a gasket set, Toyota $704, EBay $123 >: > delivery to the door. Took the Ebay option ;o) >: > >: > Found that the power steering pump was leaking so got that rekit- >: > Cost $295 (Again a bit steep I thought) >: > Needs a new Rad, $490 including fitment of a thermo switch for >: > electric fan. Had the extractors sitting ready in the garage from a >: > while ago (Glad I didnt pay to have them fit before I pulled the >: > heads off! What and absolute prick of a job that would be!!) >: > >: > So, Im up to refitting the banana bunchon top and slip hitting two >: > small sensors on the back of the manifold. No biggie eh, theres >: > bound to be plenty around. Nope, no wreckers have one, Toyota want >: > $298.00 for the two. (No typo). Can only get one from auto sparky >: > wholesalers so hit Ebay again and $19 later, should be on its way >: > from the States. >: > >: > With a bit of luck it will go back together okay. Total spend to >: > date is not far under $1500 all up including the exhaust manifolds. >: > Yet to do is buy a fan (VS C'Dore one should fit okay) and have >: > the exhaust made up under the car. Hoping to get away under $2k all >: > up. If Ive not stuffed up then I think its worth the project. >: > >: > >: > Proof will be if it starts I suppose once its all up and running. >: > >: > >: > >: >: I had no idea Jap parts were so expensive. >: They are worse than parts for the LR Discovery!! >: >: Good luck with it Scotty, I'm sure it will all work well :) >: > > I bloody hope so!! > > yeah parts for older cars are a bit dear. You would imagine that they > would want to get rid om them eh rather than alienate customers with > such high prices. I mean a gasket set for $700 thats fricken theft!!! > > Well with the extractors, decent exhaust, cold air intake mod and a > clean up it should run a bit better than it did before eh. > > > > Scotty, I modified the air intake on the Disco and it did make a slight difference. The old air intake had a section half the diameter of the airflow meter and it collected air from around the dvrs side headlight! (great for crossing deep water!!) I fitted a diesel air snorkel on it, best thing I ever did. I also replaced the exhaust system with a larger diameter. Left the manifolds in place as they are well designed and have twin outlets on each side of the V8. I also fitted a $1,200 Unichip and that really did make a big difference :) Every little bit helps :)
From: Scotty on 8 Mar 2010 06:37
"Ron" <xnews.com> wrote in message news:Xns9D33510A0DB7BNA(a)74.209.136.90... : : I modified the air intake on the Disco and it did make a slight : difference. The old air intake had a section half the diameter of the : airflow meter and it collected air from around the dvrs side headlight! : (great for crossing deep water!!) : : I fitted a diesel air snorkel on it, best thing I ever did. : I also replaced the exhaust system with a larger diameter. : Left the manifolds in place as they are well designed and have twin : outlets on each side of the V8. : : I also fitted a $1,200 Unichip and that really did make a big difference ::) : : Every little bit helps :) Well, tonight I finally fit the induction set and filled it up with oil. With a once over I checked for loose nuts and bolts, stuck the key in and fired it up. Bloody thing started after a few turns (to suck in fuel) and away she went, shut it down pretty much straight away due to no rad or water yet. Im stoked! Never done a head gasket job before and to have it fire first time was quite rewarding. The neightbours wondered what the hell was going on as well as its not got an exhuast fitted yet. Just headers at the moment. Have to drive it to the exhaust shop. Not sure how Im going to get it there yet, Id prefer just to drive it really to save paying for a tow. Its 3 Kms away on a very busy stretch of road. Not sure Im too keen on doing that. Wonder what the law says about taking a car to the closest repairer? Im sure it would be a tad over 90 Decibels. |