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From: chuckcar on 10 May 2010 19:20 "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in news:PdKdnfcl9K2953XWnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d(a)giganews.com: > > "chuckcar" <chuck(a)nil.car> wrote in message >>> >> Fair enough and my comment was made right in the heat of the argument >> anyways. Your later post changed my viewpoint somewhat. Also, there >> are some trolls here. I have spotted some new ones or nyms in this >> thread I think. >> > > There was really no argument, Chuck....As things are beginning to > become known, a lot of information, and suspicion, is going to come > out.. In fact, more information is already coming to light, and it > doesnt look good. > > Mistakes were made, and people died from them. The entire Gulf will > suffer environmental damage that can last for years. > > The technology exists to drill rather safely in deep water...but it is > expensive > and I think we will find that this particular situation didnt take > every precaution > that was available to it. > > Our government is probably going to have to get off their duffs, and > become involved in the regulation of offshore drilling. It is a > shame, because the government is so incompetent in other matters, I > can only imagine they will bring chaos to an already troubled > industry. > Well, they're pretty much out of practice in such things. At least *your* government is. It's not mine. -- (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
From: chuckcar on 10 May 2010 22:22 "Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4(a)snet.net> wrote in news:4be8a035$0$11422$ec3e2dad(a)unlimited.usenetmonster.com: >> Air pressure required? at one mile down it would be immense. > > Also getting it in place against the flow of oil wouldn't be easy. It > also presumes a clean open pipe to be able to fit such a thing in, and > they believe that the blow out preventer that is on the well mostly > worked and is mostly closed since the oil flow is apparently > considerably less that what would be expected if the BOP was wide > open. Really difficult to get a close look into the end of the BOP > with oil spewing out though, so you have to take educated guesses. > I doubt you could get anything near enough to even have a chance of seeing it. There'd be too much turbulence. I haven't followed this closely enough to know what happened to the last cap, but that would be my first guess: turbulence leading to it being damaged. -- (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
From: Pete C. on 11 May 2010 09:05 chuckcar wrote: > > "Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4(a)snet.net> wrote in > news:4be8a035$0$11422$ec3e2dad(a)unlimited.usenetmonster.com: > > >> Air pressure required? at one mile down it would be immense. > > > > Also getting it in place against the flow of oil wouldn't be easy. It > > also presumes a clean open pipe to be able to fit such a thing in, and > > they believe that the blow out preventer that is on the well mostly > > worked and is mostly closed since the oil flow is apparently > > considerably less that what would be expected if the BOP was wide > > open. Really difficult to get a close look into the end of the BOP > > with oil spewing out though, so you have to take educated guesses. > > > I doubt you could get anything near enough to even have a chance of > seeing it. There'd be too much turbulence. I haven't followed this closely > enough to know what happened to the last cap, but that would be my > first guess: turbulence leading to it being damaged. Not even close. The collection dome had issues with gas hydrate crystals forming and both clogging the pipe at the top of the dome as well as making the 98 Ton? structure buoyant. I believe they are investigating pumping methanol into the dome as an antifreeze to prevent the hydrate crystal formation. They had expected some crystals, and had the pipe to the surface double walled with warm water pumped down the outside jacket to help prevent problems, but they had more crystal formation in the dome itself than they expected.
From: cuhulin on 11 May 2010 10:23 Had to strike a match to see if that light was lit. Why don't they put that box back over that hole and fill it up with concrete? Seems to me concrete would fall down that pipe and into the box all by itself. cuhulin
From: cuhulin on 11 May 2010 20:30
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