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From: hls on 5 May 2010 07:52 "chuckcar" <chuck(a)nil.car> wrote in message > The only person who seems to be saying it *can't* happen is the > conservative > premier. Hardly surprising. > Any time you drill in deep water, things can happen. The technology is pretty well developed, but there is never a guarantee that something cant go wrong. Maybe when we find out exactly what happened in this case, practical engineers and university boffins can improve the technology. As insinuated, the company is responsible for the development,implementation and improvement of safety routines. The individual worker is responsible for understanding and using those routines. As in jet airliner travel, one broken part, one human error, or one act of God can blow you apart.
From: hls on 5 May 2010 11:20 "Tegger" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message news:Xns9D6EBC9FB903Ategger(a)208.90.168.18... > Ther's more: The WSJ is essentially taking BP's side, telling readers to > wait for more information before condemning BP. > > -- > Tegger That is my point of view too.
From: hls on 5 May 2010 11:25 "chuckcar" <chuck(a)nil.car> wrote in message news:Xns9D6EA403D9DA8chuck(a)127.0.0.1... > "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in >> >> Let's find out what happened before we come to conclusions. >> > They *know* what happened to the pipe. That's why they can't turn the > oil off. As far as the stupidity that lead to the actual pipe breaking, > that's another matter and beside the point. ******* No, it wont be beside the point when demands for damages start mounting, and lawsuits really get hot. Right now, they need to control the oil, I agree. And they are working on it. Viewing stupidity in hindsight is a well known human foible.
From: chuckcar on 5 May 2010 17:04 "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in news:0PqdnZLQvZKKwXzWnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d(a)giganews.com: > > "chuckcar" <chuck(a)nil.car> wrote in message >> The only person who seems to be saying it *can't* happen is the >> conservative >> premier. Hardly surprising. >> > > Any time you drill in deep water, things can happen. > The technology is pretty well developed, but there is never a > guarantee that something cant go wrong. > > Maybe when we find out exactly what happened in this case, practical > engineers and university boffins can improve the technology. > > As insinuated, the company is responsible for the > development,implementation and improvement of safety routines. The > individual worker is responsible for > understanding and using those routines. > > As in jet airliner travel, one broken part, one human error, or one > act of God can blow you apart. > Nonsence. Planes *have* redundancy due to regulation of them. If the engines stop working, the plane glides and a competent pilot can land it. Any time there's a crash there's a long properly run investigation and changes are made that stop it from being repeated. That's *exactly* why it *is* safe and why oil rigs aren't. -- (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
From: chuckcar on 5 May 2010 17:04
"hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in news:f8SdnRLE4KFpEHzWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com: > > "chuckcar" <chuck(a)nil.car> wrote in message > news:Xns9D6EA403D9DA8chuck(a)127.0.0.1... >> "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in > >>> >>> Let's find out what happened before we come to conclusions. >>> >> They *know* what happened to the pipe. That's why they can't turn the >> oil off. As far as the stupidity that lead to the actual pipe >> breaking, that's another matter and beside the point. > > ******* > No, it wont be beside the point when demands for damages start > mounting, and lawsuits really get hot. > They never prove anything about cause. Only about who's greedy and has the most time and money to waste on lawyers. > Right now, they need to control the oil, I agree. And they are > working on it. > > Viewing stupidity in hindsight is a well known human foible. > Hardly. It's how things don't repeat themselves. Those that don't learn from history are condemmed to repeat it. Those that don't learn history are incompetent. -- (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) ) |