From: steve robinson on 3 Jul 2010 15:33 stephen.hull(a)btinternet.com wrote: > In message <i0ns56$j27$1(a)news.eternal-september.org> > "Jerry" <mapson.scarts(a)btinternet.INVALID> wrote: > > > > ><stephen.hull(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message > > news:345c1a3151.Steve(a)btinternet.com... > > > > <snip> > > : > > : The fact the insurance company won't pay for these extra panels > > is > > : irrelevant, the skilled sprayer would automatically paint these > > : areas to obtain a perfect colour match. > > : > > > > You really don't understand anything about the crash repair trade > > Steve, you might know you paint but you know nothing about the > > business model of these 'approved repairer' bodyshops - this > > thread has nothing what so ever to do with the competence of the > > paint sprayer and everything to do with getting the cars out and > > hitting the monthly target, it's all about volume, not quality. I > > *never* advise anyone to accept the insurance companies approved > > repairer if at all possible... > > > Things might have changed since I ran my car repair business, > although I was not insurance approved it did not stop me from > doing insurance work properly. Thats because you will have priced accordingly and generally dealt with the owner . These insurance approved repairers are screwed down on price so they will only do the minimal amount of work > > However if it's anything like my neighbours recent Merc paint job > turned out then I don't understand how these people manage to stay > in business. > > Stephen. They stay in business because the insurance companies keep feeding them work , infact several of the larger 'chain' body shops are owned by insurance companies.
From: Jerry on 3 Jul 2010 15:58 "steve robinson" <steve(a)colevalleyinteriors.co.uk> wrote in message news:xn0gw7b5tj3xj5002(a)news.eternal-september.org... <snip> : : What the op and others need to realise is that the tradesman may : fully agree with the op in this case however the op is not paying the : bill the insurance company is and extra work has to be paid for Exactly, and that is were "Betterment" comes in. -- Regards, Jerry.
From: Jerry on 3 Jul 2010 16:07 <stephen.hull(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message news:635d243151.Steve(a)btinternet.com... [ re aproved insurance repairers ] : : This garage (nor any other) will not generate much work if they : operate like this, They don't need to 'generate work' it's handed to them by the insurance Co, often via email or fax, nine times out of ten *they* contact the vehicle owner after said owner makes the claim. Often the car isn't even inspected by a lost adjuster either, the whole process is done via emailed images of the damage. -- Regards, Jerry.
From: stephen.hull on 3 Jul 2010 17:38 In message <4C2F8C93.45AD74C3(a)sizef3566262itter.com> johannes <johs(a)sizef3566262itter.com> wrote: > > >"BertieBigBollox(a)gmail.com" wrote: >> >> Got a classic 1987 mini cooper in mint condition. Well, it was until >> someone ran into the back of it in a car park when it was parked. >> >> Anyway, off it went to the bodyshop recommended by the insurer. Got it >> back yesterday. >> >> Very poor paint job. Its now blatantly obvious that the back has been >> resprayed but not the whole car. >> >> Spoke to my insurance company who said that they could not expect the >> 3rd partys insurer to pay for a complete respray and that this was >> sometimes the problem with older cars. >> >> Seems a bit unfair. So now I've got a car with not matching paintwork >> due to an accident that blatantly wasnt my fault. >> >> Surely, this is not right. Shouldnt the 3rd party or their insurer be >> liable to restore the car to its original condition regardless of >> whether it requires a complete respray? > >Accident repair paint matching is always hit and miss. You can often >clearly spot cars where panels has been repainted. Some better than >others, but never an exact match. Various colours causes different >problems. Red paint changes by long exposure to sun light. It isn't >helped when manufacturers change the colour selection for each model >year, even if nothing else has changed. Probably not much of a problem >if the car is otherwise fine, but as the song goes "the first cut is >the deepest...". A complete respray may pose its own problems, such >as overspray or lack of finish. Again there are specialist people >who know what they're doing, but the insurer's bodyshop probably isn't >one of those... Indeed Yes. Stephen. -- http://www.stephen.hull.btinternet.co.uk Coach painting tips and techniques + Land Rover colour codes "Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble". Henry Royce
From: stephen.hull on 3 Jul 2010 17:36
In message <xn0gw7easnd3p4003(a)news.eternal-september.org> "steve robinson" <steve(a)colevalleyinteriors.co.uk> wrote: >stephen.hull(a)btinternet.com wrote: > >> In message <i0ns56$j27$1(a)news.eternal-september.org> >> "Jerry" <mapson.scarts(a)btinternet.INVALID> wrote: >> >> > >> ><stephen.hull(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message >> > news:345c1a3151.Steve(a)btinternet.com... >> > >> > <snip> >> > : >> > : The fact the insurance company won't pay for these extra panels >> > is >> > : irrelevant, the skilled sprayer would automatically paint these >> > : areas to obtain a perfect colour match. >> > : >> > >> > You really don't understand anything about the crash repair trade >> > Steve, you might know you paint but you know nothing about the >> > business model of these 'approved repairer' bodyshops - this >> > thread has nothing what so ever to do with the competence of the >> > paint sprayer and everything to do with getting the cars out and >> > hitting the monthly target, it's all about volume, not quality. I >> > *never* advise anyone to accept the insurance companies approved >> > repairer if at all possible... >> >> >> Things might have changed since I ran my car repair business, >> although I was not insurance approved it did not stop me from >> doing insurance work properly. > >Thats because you will have priced accordingly and generally dealt >with the owner . Yes >These insurance approved repairers are screwed down on price so they >will only do the minimal amount of work > There lies the problem. > >> >> However if it's anything like my neighbours recent Merc paint job >> turned out then I don't understand how these people manage to stay >> in business. >> >> Stephen. > >They stay in business because the insurance companies keep feeding >them work , infact several of the larger 'chain' body shops are owned >by insurance companies. > So far, things might change though. Stephen. -- http://www.stephen.hull.btinternet.co.uk Coach painting tips and techniques + Land Rover colour codes "Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble". Henry Royce |