Bodywork repairs following accident - paint match
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From: Jerry on 8 Jul 2010 15:50 "Richard H Huelin" <spamandscams(a)nospammershere.co.uk> wrote in message news:U8KdnQSySdfEv6vRnZ2dnUVZ7qKdnZ2d(a)powerusenet.com... : On 08/07/2010 13:44, Jerry wrote: : > "Adrian"<toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message : > news:89lpr3Fo71U8(a)mid.individual.net... : > : "BertieBigBollox(a)gmail.com"<bertiebigbollox(a)gmail.com> gurgled : > happily, : > : sounding much like they were saying: : > : : > :> However, surely I'm entitled to have my car back with : > paintwork that : > :> matches regardless of betterment? : > : : > :<sigh> : > : : > : YET again - they need to mix the paint to match the car, not : > the code. : > : > <sigh> : > : > YET again - If it is possible to do so.... : : Why is it that you feel the need to defend the incompetent? <snipped> If you bothered to read what I'm saying, and more importantly, understand what I'm saying you would see that I'm not, I have never defended an incompetent colour match [1], what I am defending is the cold facts-of-life against rather ignorant opinion as expressed by people like you. [1] Message-ID: <i11s62$504$1(a)news.eternal-september.org> <quote> is the miss-match colour wrong or is the old paintwork the problem, if the former then you *still* have a claim against the original repairer </quote>
From: Richard H Huelin on 8 Jul 2010 18:32 On 08/07/2010 20:50, Jerry wrote: > "Richard H Huelin"<spamandscams(a)nospammershere.co.uk> wrote in > message news:U8KdnQSySdfEv6vRnZ2dnUVZ7qKdnZ2d(a)powerusenet.com... > : On 08/07/2010 13:44, Jerry wrote: > :> "Adrian"<toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > :> news:89lpr3Fo71U8(a)mid.individual.net... > :> : "BertieBigBollox(a)gmail.com"<bertiebigbollox(a)gmail.com> > gurgled > :> happily, > :> : sounding much like they were saying: > :> : > :> :> However, surely I'm entitled to have my car back with > :> paintwork that > :> :> matches regardless of betterment? > :> : > :> :<sigh> > :> : > :> : YET again - they need to mix the paint to match the car, > not > :> the code. > :> > :> <sigh> > :> > :> YET again - If it is possible to do so.... > : > : Why is it that you feel the need to defend the incompetent? > <snipped> > > If you bothered to read what I'm saying, and more importantly, > understand what I'm saying you would see that I'm not, I have > never defended an incompetent colour match [1], what I am > defending is the cold facts-of-life against rather ignorant > opinion as expressed by people like you. > > [1] Message-ID:<i11s62$504$1(a)news.eternal-september.org> > <quote> > is the miss-match colour wrong or is the old > paintwork the problem, if the former then you > *still* have a claim against the original repairer > </quote> As usual you insist on being totally clue resistant. If the old paint was in good condition there should not have been a problem for a competent paint shop to match it, if they felt that there was a likelihood that they might not achieve this, they would have a duty of care to advise the OP that they might not be able to match the paint. I have just had some paintwork completed on my 47 year old classic, the paint matches perfectly, it should be hardly rocket science for a competent sprayer to achieve the same on a very much newer vehicle, unless of course his name is Jerry the clueless with his aerosol can.
From: steve robinson on 8 Jul 2010 19:09 Richard H Huelin wrote: > On 08/07/2010 20:50, Jerry wrote: > >"Richard H Huelin"<spamandscams(a)nospammershere.co.uk> wrote in > > message news:U8KdnQSySdfEv6vRnZ2dnUVZ7qKdnZ2d(a)powerusenet.com... > > : On 08/07/2010 13:44, Jerry wrote: > >:> "Adrian"<toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >:> news:89lpr3Fo71U8(a)mid.individual.net... > >:> : "BertieBigBollox(a)gmail.com"<bertiebigbollox(a)gmail.com> > > gurgled > >:> happily, > >:> : sounding much like they were saying: > >:> : > >:> :> However, surely I'm entitled to have my car back with > >:> paintwork that > >:> :> matches regardless of betterment? > >:> : > >:> :<sigh> > >:> : > >:> : YET again - they need to mix the paint to match the car, > > not > >:> the code. > > :> > >:> <sigh> > > :> > >:> YET again - If it is possible to do so.... > > : > > : Why is it that you feel the need to defend the incompetent? > > <snipped> > > > > If you bothered to read what I'm saying, and more importantly, > > understand what I'm saying you would see that I'm not, I have > > never defended an incompetent colour match [1], what I am > > defending is the cold facts-of-life against rather ignorant > > opinion as expressed by people like you. > > > > [1] Message-ID:<i11s62$504$1(a)news.eternal-september.org> > > <quote> > > is the miss-match colour wrong or is the old > > paintwork the problem, if the former then you > > *still* have a claim against the original repairer > > </quote> > > As usual you insist on being totally clue resistant. If the old > paint was in good condition there should not have been a problem > for a competent paint shop to match it, if they felt that there was > a likelihood that they might not achieve this, they would have a > duty of care to advise the OP that they might not be able to match > the paint. The garage has no such duty to notify the OP , the OP wasnt the client the insurance company was > > I have just had some paintwork completed on my 47 year old classic, > the paint matches perfectly, it should be hardly rocket science for > a competent sprayer to achieve the same on a very much newer > vehicle, unless of course his name is Jerry the clueless with his > aerosol can. The paint on your old vehicle is likely to be a solid colour , solid colours are far easier to blend in than metallic paints . It is a well known issue with metallics ,5 sprayers could use the same mix within the same sprayshop and from the same gun all would achieve a slightly different 'shadeing' . No two sprayers spray exactly the same
From: Richard H Huelin on 8 Jul 2010 19:35 On 09/07/2010 00:09, steve robinson wrote: > Richard H Huelin wrote: > >> On 08/07/2010 20:50, Jerry wrote: >>> "Richard H Huelin"<spamandscams(a)nospammershere.co.uk> wrote in >>> message news:U8KdnQSySdfEv6vRnZ2dnUVZ7qKdnZ2d(a)powerusenet.com... >>> : On 08/07/2010 13:44, Jerry wrote: >>> :> "Adrian"<toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>> :> news:89lpr3Fo71U8(a)mid.individual.net... >>> :> : "BertieBigBollox(a)gmail.com"<bertiebigbollox(a)gmail.com> >>> gurgled >>> :> happily, >>> :> : sounding much like they were saying: >>> :> : >>> :> :> However, surely I'm entitled to have my car back with >>> :> paintwork that >>> :> :> matches regardless of betterment? >>> :> : >>> :> :<sigh> >>> :> : >>> :> : YET again - they need to mix the paint to match the car, >>> not >>> :> the code. >>> :> >>> :> <sigh> >>> :> >>> :> YET again - If it is possible to do so.... >>> : >>> : Why is it that you feel the need to defend the incompetent? >>> <snipped> >>> >>> If you bothered to read what I'm saying, and more importantly, >>> understand what I'm saying you would see that I'm not, I have >>> never defended an incompetent colour match [1], what I am >>> defending is the cold facts-of-life against rather ignorant >>> opinion as expressed by people like you. >>> >>> [1] Message-ID:<i11s62$504$1(a)news.eternal-september.org> >>> <quote> >>> is the miss-match colour wrong or is the old >>> paintwork the problem, if the former then you >>> *still* have a claim against the original repairer >>> </quote> >> >> As usual you insist on being totally clue resistant. If the old >> paint was in good condition there should not have been a problem >> for a competent paint shop to match it, if they felt that there was >> a likelihood that they might not achieve this, they would have a >> duty of care to advise the OP that they might not be able to match >> the paint. > > > The garage has no such duty to notify the OP , the OP wasnt the > client the insurance company was Fair enough if you want to nit pick, if the garage had any doubts about being able to match the paint they should have informed their client so that their client could advise their client. >> I have just had some paintwork completed on my 47 year old classic, >> the paint matches perfectly, it should be hardly rocket science for >> a competent sprayer to achieve the same on a very much newer >> vehicle, unless of course his name is Jerry the clueless with his >> aerosol can. > > > The paint on your old vehicle is likely to be a solid colour , solid > colours are far easier to blend in than metallic paints . > > It is a well known issue with metallics ,5 sprayers could use the > same mix within the same sprayshop and from the same gun all would > achieve a slightly different 'shadeing' . In which case the only solution would be a complete respray for the slightest damage to any metallic car, if that were the case there would be so many issues that manufactures would have dropped metallic paint years ago. If your statement is true why is it that insurers do not load premiums for cars with metallic paint? they certainly never hesitate to do so in the case of anything else that increases their underwriting costs. It might not be always easy to get it right which is why a competent paint-shop would employ the one out of the 5 who can achieve a match. > No two sprayers spray exactly the same Competent workmen find solutions, the others and their apologists come up with excuses.
From: Richard H Huelin on 9 Jul 2010 05:33
On 09/07/2010 09:53, Jerry wrote: > "Richard H Huelin"<spamandscams(a)nospammershere.co.uk> wrote in > message news:n5qdnWcY7PFT_KvRnZ2dnUVZ7v-dnZ2d(a)powerusenet.com... > > <snip> > : > : Competent workmen find solutions, the others and their > apologists come > : up with excuses. > </rant> > > Whilst clueless pizzles like you (oh and do remind us how many > years you have been a paint sprayer or at least worked within the > refinishing trade) keep making sweeping comments like that from a > position of total ignorance just so that you can feel that you > have somehow 'got one on those pesky insurance companies and > their co-hort repairer's. That is a bit rich coming from a clown like you. I have already answered your question twice, given your clue resistance there seems to be little point in repeating it again. In the forlorn hope that something might get through your thick scull. Expecting an Insurance company and it's authorised repairer to honour their side of the contract by doing a competent job is hardly trying to <Quote> "'got one on those pesky insurance companies and their co-hort repairer's." <Quote/> |