From: Dave Plowman (News) on
In article <890n7rFjm0U33(a)mid.individual.net>,
Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Why should it matter whether the policy was classic or not when the
> > other driver was at fault?

> Because the standard of repair expected to a classic vehicle -
> particularly with reference to paint match - is higher than to a random
> older car.

That's simply not so, unless you are paying for the work yourself. And
that applies to any car, new or old.

> There are also different techniques required - it'd be fine to
> paint a 2yo car to the paint code, since fading and previous repainting
> is unlikely.

So the insurance premium for a more than two year old car drops
dramatically?

> But not an older car - you really do need to match to the
> colour. Which might take a couple of goes, and increases the cost.

A decent craftsman should manage it first time.

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Dave Plowman dave(a)davenoise.co.uk London SW
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From: Adrian on
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave(a)davenoise.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

>> But not an older car - you really do need to match to the colour. Which
>> might take a couple of goes, and increases the cost.

> A decent craftsman should manage it first time.

Since when did insurance bodyshops employ them?
From: Adrian on
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave(a)davenoise.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

> My other car is on a classic policy. Not had any special treatment over
> repairs on that. Only thing might be an agreed value - but suspicious me
> wonders just how worthwhile these are? Because some insurers seem to
> accept amounts far higher than the car would fetch if sold on the open
> market.

"Insurance value" is hardly a classic-car-only thing, though, is it?

Ever watch the Antiques Roadshow?
From: Mike P on
On 30 June, 13:41, "Dave Plowman (News)" <d...(a)davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <890maaFjm0...(a)mid.individual.net>,
>    Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Yeh. But surely I've got a right to have the car back in the same
> > > condition as before the accident?
> > Indeed. And that condition was not "freshly and completely resprayed".
> > It's still relevant that your insurance was not a classic policy, so the
> > standards being applied are those of a normal vehicle of that age. You
> > merely proved to them that the repair was not financially unviable.
>
> That's complete bollocks.;-)
>
>  My getting on a bit (13 years old) but still in good condition BMW was
> damaged recently and it was touch and go about it being written off. Due
> to the cost of a new door. I asked why they couldn't just use a secondhand
> one - about 50 rather than 500 quid for the part - and they said they only
> use new parts.
>
> They also had to respray more than just the damaged part to get a good
> match on the metallic paint. You are entitled to have the car returned to
> the condition it was in before the accident, and not bodged in any way.
>
> My other car is on a classic policy. Not had any special treatment over
> repairs on that. Only thing might be an agreed value - but suspicious me
> wonders just how worthwhile these are?

IME Agreed value is a good thing.

I bought an MX-5 for £1500. Insured it for £2000 agreed value, they
asked for pics, service history etc.

I wrote it off, my own fault.

They gave me £2000, no quibbles. This was Adrian Flux, back in 2008.

Mike P
From: Jerry on

"Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:890t1rFjm0U59(a)mid.individual.net...
: "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave(a)davenoise.co.uk> gurgled happily,
sounding
: much like they were saying:
:
: >> But not an older car - you really do need to match to the
colour. Which
: >> might take a couple of goes, and increases the cost.
:
: > A decent craftsman should manage it first time.
:
: Since when did insurance bodyshops employ them?

Define "insurance bodyshop", all the ones I've worked in will do
as Dave suggests, not all "insurance bodyshop" are born equal
though...
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Regards, Jerry.