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From: Conor on 22 Dec 2009 18:54 In article <hgrc5b$jjg$1(a)frank-exchange-of-views.oucs.ox.ac.uk>, Mr X says... > > Irrelevant. > > > Very relevant, IMO. No. Completely and utterly irrelevent. > He couldn't be expected to know about the low bridge and may have been > concentrating on the route. > I drove all over the UK down roads I'd never been down. I wasn't expected to know about the low bridges I came across beforehand yet by using my eyes and brain, I managed to avoid any I couldn't get under. > For the sake of children wouldn't it be better to have a simple warning > system, for example an ultra-sonic alert? I doubt someone as thick as that bus driver would work out what the funny noise was. -- Conor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
From: Conor on 22 Dec 2009 18:55 In article <7pct96Fs7pU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Ivor Jones says... > > On 21/12/09 17:37, Conor wrote: > > In article<7p96b1Fr2dU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Peter Beale says... > >> > >> Conor wrote: > >>> In article<7p73pkF9lvU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Ivor Jones says... > >>> > >>>> Those well publicised cases where satnavs have taken lorry drivers along > >>>> narrow country lanes etc. are due entirely to the failure of the driver > >>>> to program them correctly. > >>>> > >>> Is the wrong answer.... > >>> > >> > >>> You cannot "set them properly" for a lorry or a bus. Even the supposed > >>> dedicated HGV ones aren't much cop. For example, there's far more than > >>> 1500 low bridges but only Network Rail has a database the mappers can > >>> accesss. Local authorities seem to not know. > >>> > >> But every low bridge is clearly marked with the height, both at the > >> bridge itself and on approaching roads, in time for an alternative route > >> to be taken. Is it not the responsibility of the driver to note those > >> and take action, whatever his satnav may tell him? > >> > > The poster who I replied to said that there were ones which calculated > > HGV routes if you put in that it was a lorry. That is nonsense. > > I said nothing of the sort. I said my unit has different settings for > cars & buses/HGV's. I never said it was guaranteed to avoid all low > bridges, but I have tested it and it does avoid some. > Only by luck. And the consideration of low bridges wasn't the point but rather the routing through housing estates... > But as said above it is of course the driver's responsibility. However > if they program their units correctly it would make a difference. > Rubbish. -- Conor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
From: Denis McMahon on 22 Dec 2009 19:10 Cynic wrote: > Maybe you should remove all the safety equipment from your car and fit > a huge spike to the centre of the steering wheel. After all, provided > you never make a mistake, you'll be no worse off. I actually believe that replacing airbags and seat belts with that spike would make the roads a lot safer. Knowing that you're going to be the first one to die if you get it wrong would keep a lot of drivers more focused. Rgds Denis McMahon
From: Adrian on 23 Dec 2009 04:45 "Mr X" <invalid(a)invalid.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>> He was driving off route >> Irrelevant. > Very relevant, IMO. > He couldn't be expected to know about the low bridge and may have been > concentrating on the route. Mmm. I'd have said that "concentrating on the route" would typically tend to involve noticing that the sky is considerably lower just ahead of the bus. Wouldn't you?
From: Conor on 23 Dec 2009 06:50
In article <tp6dnZ7fPat6wqzWnZ2dnUVZ8i5i4p2d(a)giganews.com>, Denis McMahon says... > > Cynic wrote: > > > Maybe you should remove all the safety equipment from your car and fit > > a huge spike to the centre of the steering wheel. After all, provided > > you never make a mistake, you'll be no worse off. > > I actually believe that replacing airbags and seat belts with that spike > would make the roads a lot safer. > For most of the last decade, I've owned a Ford Capri. One feature of them is a steering wheel that sticks out a foot from the dashboard at chest height. You are in no doubt that in the event of an accident what you will hit as you go forward. -- Conor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. |