From: Cynic on
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:37:03 +0000, Ian Dalziel
<iandalziel(a)lineone.net> wrote:

>>Maybe you should remove all the safety equipment from your car and fit
>>a huge spike to the centre of the steering wheel. After all, provided
>>you never make a mistake, you'll be no worse off.

>What safety equipment?

Are you not familiar with modern cars?

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Cynic


From: Cynic on
On 22 Dec 2009 20:05:06 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> I would only want to see practical ideas implemented that have an
>>>> acceptable cost/reward ratio.
>
>>>Such as putting signs on bridges and signs in the vehicle cab...
>
>> That's the *primary* system to avoid contact between bus and bridge.
>> Maybe you have heard of the concept of having *backup* systems? Or do
>> you just cross your fingers and hope that the primary system never
>> fails?
>
>No, the primary system is the driver's eyes.

The primary system is a *combination* of signage, the driver's eyes
and the driver's brain. Any one of which may fail to work as
intended.

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Cynic


From: Adrian on
Cynic <cynic_999(a)yahoo.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

>>There's a rather big difference between installing a warning device in
>>the plane and installing a warning device on every single mountain...

> Next time you see a tall aerial mast, look at the top of it. You will
> note that it has a flashing red beacon. Guess why that's there.
>
> And those are fitted to *every* tall mast.

Aerials are difficult to see.
Mountains are easy to see.

Can you guess which end of that spectrum bridges fall under?
From: Mr X on

"Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7pejleF429U1(a)mid.individual.net...
> Cynic <cynic_999(a)yahoo.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying:
>
>>>There's a rather big difference between installing a warning device in
>>>the plane and installing a warning device on every single mountain...
>
>> Next time you see a tall aerial mast, look at the top of it. You will
>> note that it has a flashing red beacon. Guess why that's there.
>>
>> And those are fitted to *every* tall mast.
>
> Aerials are difficult to see.
> Mountains are easy to see.
>
Not the Captain Park of Korean Air who flew his 747 into one at some point
in the 1990s.


From: Mr X on

"Cynic" <cynic_999(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1p34j5dhk7alqp6ibng1n3rn5ii50esrcm(a)4ax.com...
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:35:34 -0000, "Mr X" <invalid(a)invalid.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>> I see. So presumably you are completely opposed to the huge amount of
>>>>> money we spend on gritting the roads every year. We should instead
>>>>> simply laugh at all the smashed up vehicles whose drivers were
>>>>> obviously
>>>>> too stupid to realise that the roads were slippery.
>>>
>>>>Where did I say that sensible precautions weren't required? I'd have
>>>>said
>>>>a compulsory sign in front of every low bridge and a compulsory notice
>>>>in
>>>>the cab of every tall vehicle were such sensible precautions.
>>>
>>> As are hanging chains on the approach.
>>>
>>Which could shatter the windows of the bus.
>
> Which is preferable to shearing off the whole roof.
>
Is it?
No one was hurt in this accident but they could well be hurt by shards of
glass and a huge great big chain breaking through the windows!
There are ultrasonic warning systems for buses to prevent this:
http://www.hanoverdisplays.com/index.php?section=4&page=12

Perhaps they should be fitted on all buses?


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