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From: Roland Perry on 24 Dec 2009 11:58 In message <MPG.259d9efe66c6da9b989a9c(a)news.eternal-september.org>, at 15:54:13 on Thu, 24 Dec 2009, Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> remarked: >> The fact that you can glide for 20 miles after the donk stops is >>little comfort if the closest land is 1000 miles away and the water >>temperature is below zero. >> >But you don't fall out of the sky and die. You fall into the sea and die. -- Roland Perry
From: Roland Perry on 24 Dec 2009 12:30 In message <og77j59l5ihui75gf3udc7e9cjc1dd6ipj(a)4ax.com>, at 17:01:33 on Thu, 24 Dec 2009, Ian Dalziel <iandalziel(a)lineone.net> remarked: >>>I do, however, think you were talking shite about my relying on modern >>>safety aids when I have none to rely on. >> >>So no disc brakes or radial tyres then? > >Disc brakes - 1902. >Radial tyres - 1946. > >Modern? Disc brakes are a "modern" addition to most family cars. Similarly, when I started driving in the 70's most cars had crossply tyres. -- Roland Perry
From: Roland Perry on 24 Dec 2009 12:33 In message <us77j5128ste3sac525uu5kmjo11v7q52v(a)4ax.com>, at 17:10:41 on Thu, 24 Dec 2009, Ian Dalziel <iandalziel(a)lineone.net> remarked: >>You have the wrong end of the stick. I'm not saying that cars acquired >>modern safety equipment between the end of the MG midget and 25 year >>ago. I'm saying they were already installed on cars at least 30 years >>ago. > >Which end of the stick makes your MG Midget less modern than my 2CV? When was your 2CV built? >>>>>Anyway, I was generalising. 24 to 37 years old, actually, and the >>>>>oldest is the most "modern", the newest the least. >>>> >>>>Do either have disc brakes, radial tyres or 5mph bumpers? >>> >>>Both have disc brakes and radial tyres. >> >>So they do have modern safety equipment then. > >They all have wheels as well - are you going to call *them* modern >now? Wheels are not safety equipment. >>>The bumpers travel at the same speed as the rest of the car, as far as >>>I am aware. This proves what, exactly? >> >>That your attempt to pretend you don't know what a 5mph bumper is, has >>fallen flat. > >It's no pretence - I neither know nor care. Then you are somewhat out of your depth in a discussion of the history of safety equipment. -- Roland Perry
From: Ian Dalziel on 24 Dec 2009 12:55 On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:30:18 +0000, Roland Perry <roland(a)perry.co.uk> wrote: >In message <og77j59l5ihui75gf3udc7e9cjc1dd6ipj(a)4ax.com>, at 17:01:33 on >Thu, 24 Dec 2009, Ian Dalziel <iandalziel(a)lineone.net> remarked: >>>>I do, however, think you were talking shite about my relying on modern >>>>safety aids when I have none to rely on. >>> >>>So no disc brakes or radial tyres then? >> >>Disc brakes - 1902. >>Radial tyres - 1946. >> >>Modern? > >Disc brakes are a "modern" addition to most family cars. Similarly, when >I started driving in the 70's most cars had crossply tyres. When I started driving in the 60s it was on radial tyres. -- Ian D
From: Ian Dalziel on 24 Dec 2009 12:58
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:33:26 +0000, Roland Perry <roland(a)perry.co.uk> wrote: >In message <us77j5128ste3sac525uu5kmjo11v7q52v(a)4ax.com>, at 17:10:41 on >Thu, 24 Dec 2009, Ian Dalziel <iandalziel(a)lineone.net> remarked: >>>You have the wrong end of the stick. I'm not saying that cars acquired >>>modern safety equipment between the end of the MG midget and 25 year >>>ago. I'm saying they were already installed on cars at least 30 years >>>ago. >> >>Which end of the stick makes your MG Midget less modern than my 2CV? > >When was your 2CV built? > It was designed before WWII - I thought that was your argument? >>>>>>Anyway, I was generalising. 24 to 37 years old, actually, and the >>>>>>oldest is the most "modern", the newest the least. >>>>> >>>>>Do either have disc brakes, radial tyres or 5mph bumpers? >>>> >>>>Both have disc brakes and radial tyres. >>> >>>So they do have modern safety equipment then. >> >>They all have wheels as well - are you going to call *them* modern >>now? > >Wheels are not safety equipment. > It doesn't feel very safe when one comes off. >>>>The bumpers travel at the same speed as the rest of the car, as far as >>>>I am aware. This proves what, exactly? >>> >>>That your attempt to pretend you don't know what a 5mph bumper is, has >>>fallen flat. >> >>It's no pretence - I neither know nor care. > >Then you are somewhat out of your depth in a discussion of the history >of safety equipment. Perhaps I would be. I am participating in a discussion of whether or not it is fuckwitted to drive into a bridge. -- Ian D |