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From: Ian Dalziel on 25 Dec 2009 21:54 On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:51:06 +0000, johannes <johs(a)siz82442582548524542efitter.com> wrote: > > >Mr X wrote: >> >> "johannes" <johs(a)siz82442582548524542efitter.com> wrote in message >> news:4B35313B.5C9447E3(a)siz82442582548524542efitter.com... >> > >> > >> > Ian Dalziel wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:25:09 +0000, johannes >> >> <johs(a)siz82442582548524542efitter.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Mr X wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >[...] >> >> >> No I've never been a professional driver and nor do I want to be. >> >> >> I love driving, thanks to all the gadgets in my car. >> >> >> Sat Nav is great and I'm sure that in the future there will be a way >> >> >> of >> >> >> connecting it so the car drives itself to the destination with the >> >> >> driver >> >> >> only having to intervene now and again, rather like a autopilot on a >> >> >> plane. >> >> >> As you dislike modernity so much why do you own a car when you have >> >> >> two good >> >> >> legs? >> >> > >> >> >I prefer to 'understand' the route rather than being passively directed >> >> >to >> >> >the destination. E.g. when I am a passenger, then I easily looses the >> >> >route >> >> >because I don't have to know. But afterwards I feel frustrated by not >> >> >knowing >> >> >the exact route. >> >> >> >> How would a satnav prevent you from understanding the route? >> > >> > It doesn't, but you don't have to. As I said it's the difference between >> > being a >> > passenger and a driver. Do London Taxi drivers use satnav? >> I've certainly seem them doing so. Many of them do not know some of the >> more minor roads in outer London in any case. > >OK, so it's a 'maybe'. At the moment I don't feel that I need a satnav. I'm sure you don't. I don't either, but I find it useful. What I was disagreeing with was the pompous assertion that possession of a satnav has converted me into some variety of brassica incapable of navigating by any other means. -- Ian D
From: Denis McMahon on 26 Dec 2009 03:01 Conor wrote: > In article <5kl9j5t3vjepvf86qfqji7qkqmrtu8s8p9(a)4ax.com>, James > Martin(a)hgvu.com says... > >> Considerably not due to my vast knowledge of the UK having done >> nothing else but travel in the course of my employment for many years. > > I've done likewise but I don't claim to know where everywhere is by a > long shot. Sure, I don't need to use a map to get to a town but once I'm > there, I tend to find it easier finding places with one. Yep, before satnav I used to drive to a city, stop at the first petrol station and buy a map. Navigating between cities is pretty easy if you have a basic knowledge of the geography of the country and the road network. Where I used to find a satnav useful was in the last 2 miles from leaving the trunk road network to reaching the destination. I wasn't worrying about bridges though, I think the highest vehicle I've ever driven was, at most, about 10 feet high. Rgds Denis McMahon
From: johannes on 26 Dec 2009 03:46 Conor wrote: > > In article <4B3545F7.C648F5CF(a)siz82442582548524542efitter.com>, johannes > says... > > > As indicated, I don't need to stop every few hundred yards. And I don't read > > the instructions as I am driving. > > So how do you navigate through built up areas you don't know? I find it easy enough. Looking for features and landmarks learned from maps and google earth. E.g. two roundabouts then a school, a railway bridge etc.
From: johannes on 26 Dec 2009 03:48 Ian Dalziel wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:51:06 +0000, johannes > <johs(a)siz82442582548524542efitter.com> wrote: > > > > > > >Mr X wrote: > >> > >> "johannes" <johs(a)siz82442582548524542efitter.com> wrote in message > >> news:4B35313B.5C9447E3(a)siz82442582548524542efitter.com... > >> > > >> > > >> > Ian Dalziel wrote: > >> >> > >> >> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:25:09 +0000, johannes > >> >> <johs(a)siz82442582548524542efitter.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >Mr X wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >[...] > >> >> >> No I've never been a professional driver and nor do I want to be. > >> >> >> I love driving, thanks to all the gadgets in my car. > >> >> >> Sat Nav is great and I'm sure that in the future there will be a way > >> >> >> of > >> >> >> connecting it so the car drives itself to the destination with the > >> >> >> driver > >> >> >> only having to intervene now and again, rather like a autopilot on a > >> >> >> plane. > >> >> >> As you dislike modernity so much why do you own a car when you have > >> >> >> two good > >> >> >> legs? > >> >> > > >> >> >I prefer to 'understand' the route rather than being passively directed > >> >> >to > >> >> >the destination. E.g. when I am a passenger, then I easily looses the > >> >> >route > >> >> >because I don't have to know. But afterwards I feel frustrated by not > >> >> >knowing > >> >> >the exact route. > >> >> > >> >> How would a satnav prevent you from understanding the route? > >> > > >> > It doesn't, but you don't have to. As I said it's the difference between > >> > being a > >> > passenger and a driver. Do London Taxi drivers use satnav? > >> I've certainly seem them doing so. Many of them do not know some of the > >> more minor roads in outer London in any case. > > > >OK, so it's a 'maybe'. At the moment I don't feel that I need a satnav. > > I'm sure you don't. I don't either, but I find it useful. What I was > disagreeing with was the pompous assertion that possession of a satnav > has converted me into some variety of brassica incapable of navigating > by any other means. Maybe that was another poster than me. What I was disagreeing with was the pompous assertion that I was technologically backward and old fashioned.
From: Roland Perry on 26 Dec 2009 03:47
In message <MPG.259f3e175029fefd989aa9(a)news.eternal-september.org>, at 21:25:20 on Fri, 25 Dec 2009, Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> remarked: >It is also far safer navigating by one than driving >down the road trying to follow the route you'd planned over several >pages with the A to Z you're holding in one hand at the same time as >steering with the other whilst trying to read street names as well as >see where you're going. A satnav is also far safer than driving with a paper bag over your head. I hope you never did that either. -- Roland Perry |