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From: Ian Dalziel on 26 Dec 2009 11:09 On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:06:01 +0000, johnwright <""john\"@no spam here.com"> wrote: >Conor wrote: >> In article <b3sbj59mngokd2micj64mu4ou3dn5k941n(a)4ax.com>, Cynic says... >>> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:50:01 -0000, Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>>> You appear to believe that it is possible to select perfect drivers >>>>> who will never make mistakes rather than accepting that mistakes are >>>>> inevitable and attempting to reduce the consequences of such mistakes. >>> >>>> Hitting a low bridge isn't a "mistake" but sheer incompetency. >>> Semantics. You could say the same about a person who sugars his tea >>> twice. >>> >>> It is possible for a driver who is usually competant to make an >>> incompetant mistake. The more experience you have, the less likely it >>> is. Unfortunately it is not possible to demand that everyone who >>> drives on the roads has thousands of hours of experience driving in >>> diverse situations in the particular vehicle. >> >> Hitting a low bridge is not a mistake. You have to deliberately ignore >> the signs. > >Its also about knowing the vehicle you're driving. Which is a good idea, is it not? -- Ian D
From: johnwright ""john" on 26 Dec 2009 11:16 Ian Dalziel wrote: > On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:06:01 +0000, johnwright <""john\"@no spam > here.com"> wrote: > >> Conor wrote: >>> In article <b3sbj59mngokd2micj64mu4ou3dn5k941n(a)4ax.com>, Cynic says... >>>> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:50:01 -0000, Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> You appear to believe that it is possible to select perfect drivers >>>>>> who will never make mistakes rather than accepting that mistakes are >>>>>> inevitable and attempting to reduce the consequences of such mistakes. >>>> >>>>> Hitting a low bridge isn't a "mistake" but sheer incompetency. >>>> Semantics. You could say the same about a person who sugars his tea >>>> twice. >>>> >>>> It is possible for a driver who is usually competant to make an >>>> incompetant mistake. The more experience you have, the less likely it >>>> is. Unfortunately it is not possible to demand that everyone who >>>> drives on the roads has thousands of hours of experience driving in >>>> diverse situations in the particular vehicle. >>> Hitting a low bridge is not a mistake. You have to deliberately ignore >>> the signs. >> Its also about knowing the vehicle you're driving. > > Which is a good idea, is it not? A very good idea. You may find that many bridge strikes by buses are done by drivers of single deck buses asked to drive double deckers. -- I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore ?John Wright
From: Cynic on 26 Dec 2009 11:19 On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:01:28 -0000, "Mr X" <invalid(a)invalid.com> wrote: >> In addition, there are few people to ask if you arrive somewhere at 4 >> AM. If you get lost at that time (perhaps because the last person you >> asked gave you incorrect directions), you have to drive around >> searching for an all-night garage, which may be miles away - and there >> is no guarantee that they will know where the place you are looking >> for is. >> >IME garages are the worst at giving directions. It doesn't help by many >night staff at them having only limited English. I know. But they are often the only people available to ask at 4AM -- Cynic
From: Cynic on 26 Dec 2009 11:27 On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:32:19 -0000, Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: >> It is possible for a driver who is usually competant to make an >> incompetant mistake. The more experience you have, the less likely it >> is. Unfortunately it is not possible to demand that everyone who >> drives on the roads has thousands of hours of experience driving in >> diverse situations in the particular vehicle. >Hitting a low bridge is not a mistake. You have to deliberately ignore >the signs. No, it is extremely unlikely that any deliberate intent was involved. -- Cynic
From: Cynic on 26 Dec 2009 11:30
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:54:36 +0000, Ian Dalziel <iandalziel(a)lineone.net> wrote: >>>Bollocks. Driving into solid objects is a bad idea, however modern >>>your "safety equipment". >> >>What a completely irrelevant reply to the point I was making. > >It is not irrelevant. You have to avoid solid bits in the way of the >vehicle you are driving. However low your vehicle, there are solid >bits intruding into the carriageway wich it is advisable to avoid. But bridges ain't one of them for a car driver. -- Cynic |